The ‘other’ circle, looking towards Gelli Hill cairn.
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From the southeast. Gelli Hill stone is silhouetted on the far left crest, pretending to be another sheep.
General view of the whole circle. A single low stone can be seen to the left of the picture, one of the few remaining uprights of the eastern arc.
Looking approx. east across the circle. Gilwern Hill cairn II is just visible on the extreme left of shot.
Large prostrate slab lying off-centre within the circle. Map-case for scale.
Looking roughly WSW, showing the most prominent arc of stones now remaining.
The mysterious shouldnt be there stone cirlce
Looking west
Looking a bit west of south
Looking south east-ish
I found these stones on the way back, they look very much to me like another ruined circle
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The stone circle is close to the big cairn and should be really easy to find from it, look, just follow the fence northwest until it meets the bridleway, follow the bridleway along, job done. But it isn’t, because the ground is more up-and-down than you’d think and the fences have all moved! So it takes a while to locate the circle, Mr Burl’s description helps, although he doesn’t mention the big slab in the middle of the circle (off-centre). One of the new fences hems the circle in closely on its southwestern side, not like the open field shown on the current 1/25000 map.
The circle is a ruin, and even when it was brand-spanking new would have been a little underwhelming for anyone who’d been to any other stone circles anywhere. Perhaps they hadn’t though, or perhaps the ritual quality was so impressive that the circle was nothing more than a performance space. It was all about light and magic here, maybe. To be fair, the setting is fine, with nice views especially to the west where the ground drops down to the Wye valley.
The off-centre slab is intriguing, unsure whether it’s an original feature or a more recent interloper. Big though (see picture with map for scale). The other stones are pretty small, none more than a foot or so tall, some are buried – there are mole-hills inside the circle that are taller than some of the stones. Burl reckons it’s one for the “determined”, I won’t disagree as that should be enough to bring many TMAers anyway.
I spend a good while here, wandering around the perimeter rather than sitting as I’m feeling the cold a bit now – the sky has started to clear and blue patches have appeared but there’s a distinct chill in the air and my boots are squelching a bit from the earlier downpour.
The journey here had been full of ideal photographic conditions, but once we had driven up the old track, the fog closed in and stayed there.
The first time I came I found the shouldnt be there circle first, which confused me greatly when I found the actual circle on the way back down, further musing and reading (with sweetcheats help) have proved that the less impressive of the two is the real macoy, whilst I was there the first time I could see the fallen stone from the circle and that should have said something to me but it didnt, the circle on top of the hill had thrown a big spanner in the works, dont know why it just did.
But this second time I knew where everything was, even in the fog. Up to the trig pointed barrow first, over the dilapidated fence to the confusion circle. Still dont know what to make of it, if it was farmer, I would say he has been to a few real carn circles, if it was missed by ordnance survey and CADW and Aubrey Burl then , well its just unthinkable.
The stone circle is right next to a fence, which should help with locating it, if you were a “hillwalker” you might walk right through it without noticing it. The stones are small, some flush with the ground, two or three a foot or so high, two bigger fallen stones there are, one inside the circle one outside In the next field there is a fallen menhir, perhaps marking a festivals sunrise, Burl said as much I think, memory not as good as it once was.
Prior to a nightly stop over in the Elan Hills, I take the opportunity to visit this obscure stone circle in predictably poor weather. Hey ho.... this is Wales after all, I guess. Approaching from Llandrindod Wells, an attractive town sited within a loop in the Afon Ithon – and judging by a nearby Roman Fort (Castell Collen) and castle (Cefnllys), its strategic value was evident from the off – I skirt a large lake (complete with dodgy ‘sea monster’ sculpture) and, passing the obligatory golf course, park near the steep access road to Carregwiber. I decide to walk from here and spare my already battered car further mischief. Not that the crab-apple tree dropping copious fruit onto my roof gives a monkey’s about that. At least it wasn’t my head, I suppose.
To be fair it’s quite a walk, verging on a proper hillwalk (so an OS map is essential), overlooked in the initial stages by a hillfort. Nice.... Follow the track to the SE, ignoring any turnings, until you meet another track running along the ridge of Gilwern Hill above and beyond. Follow this to the left until, just before a prominent copse of trees, you should head eastwards towards the summit of Gelli Hill. This is crowned by a trig point and a rather large burial cairn, boasting a superb view of the Wye Valley and The Radnor Forest rising to the east – the conical summit of Whimble obvious and alluring. Something about the shape, I guess.
The circle itself is sited a little to the west of the 1,440ft summit, the stones not very big, and with some apparently modern ‘additions’. But orthostat size is of little relevance here, as I’m sure the erectors would confirm if someone could invent a time machine and go have a word. Up here location is everything, the stones simply demarking a sacred space. No need to impress when the landscape says all that needs to be said. And then some. But needless to say I am impressed. What a great vibe!
Well worth the effort, despite the fearful hammering I get from Mother Nature!
On top of a hill in the middle of no-where is this stone circle so it’s a given that it’s not dead easy to get to, but it doesn’t have to be too hard. Presuming that you’ve got an OS map and can see the circle on it, firstly the narrow rough and bumpy track is navigable a good distance, when the track makes a 90 degree left turn park by the gate and footpath stile and head east making for the trig point on a barrow, go down hill avoiding marshy area then back up and its away to the left through the gate. A good circle with one heck of a view, eight stones stand mostly on the western edge of a circle twenty metres across. Not far to the east on the highest point is a barrow with a trig point on it. On the way back to the car I found what looked like another circle, more ruined, with smaller stones, Aubrey Burl doesn’t mention it and niether does coflein (though the latter does mention a fallen menhir close to this suspect circle).
A good circle and relatively easy to get to for those with a care free attitude to their cars underside.
Sites within 20km of Gelli Hill
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Gelli Hill stone
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Gelli Hill Cairn
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Gilwern Hill
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Pawl Hir
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Carregwiber
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Ffrwd Stone
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Carregwiber (stone 1)
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Cwm Stone
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Castle Bank
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Little Hill cairn III
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Little Hill cairn II
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Broomy Hill
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The Beacon (Llandrindod)
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Little Hill VII
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Graig Camp
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Glascwm Mill Cottages
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Carneddau North (Builth Wells)
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Cwm Berwyn, Carneddau (Builth Wells)
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Hundred House Common
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Cwm Maerdy
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Fedw
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Carneddau Hill (Builth Wells)
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Llandegley Rocks
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Larch Grove
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Giants Grave
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Llanerch Stone
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Bryn y Maen
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The Van
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Bryn y Maen fallen monolith
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Church of St Michael
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Llanfihangel Nant Melan
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Newbridge on Wye
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Cefn Wylfre
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Bryn Wern Bridge
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Garth (Duhonw)
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Shepherd’s Tump
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Six Stones
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Cefn Llyn
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Cwm Bwch, Great Rhos
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Ty Mawr
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Llyn Gwyn
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Garth (Llanwrthwl)
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Shepherd’s Well cross dyke
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Ffynnon Mary
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Blaen Ganolwyn Fach
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Y Gaer, Llanddewi Ystradenni
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Carn Wen, Garth (Llanwrthwl)
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Bache Hill and the Whimble
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Black Mixen
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Llethr Waun-lwyd
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Cefn-y-Gaer
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Banc Ystrad-Wen
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Llyn Dwr
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Dol y Felin
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Cryn Fryn
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Carn-y-Geifr
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Blaen Henllan
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Banc y Celyn
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Llanwrthwl Churchyard Stone
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Hafen stone pair
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Pen Cae Newydd
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Twyn-y-Big
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Carn Wen (Gwastedyn)
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Carn Pantmaenllwyd
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Hafen (Drum Ddu)
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Carnau Cefn-y-Ffordd
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Rhos-Goch Chapel
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Lane Farm
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Gwern Dyfnant
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Carnau Cerfn y Ffordd Stone II
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Crossway Barrow
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Graig Ddu (Y Gamriw North-East Ridge)
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Twyn y Garth barrows
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Harpton Court Barrow
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Ty Lettice
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Twyn y Garth
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Saith Maen
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Capel Rhos
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Cefn Ceidio
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Hindwell Cursus
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The Four Stones
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Crossfield Lane barrow
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Y Gamriw
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Old Radnor Church
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Y Gamriw (North)
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Hindwell Stone
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Kinnerton Court Stone I
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Kinnerton Court Stone II
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Hindwell Enclosure
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Hindwell round barrow group
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Hindwell Pool
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Maesgwyn Mound
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Carn Gafallt
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Pen-twyn Camp (Brilley)
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The Whet Stone
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Walton Green Cursus
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Waun Sarn
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Crugian Bach
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Womaston
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Creggin
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Knobley
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Crugian Bach Cairn(s)
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Castell y Garn
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Gurnos
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Craig Cnwch
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Milton Hill
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Ty’n Y Graig, Craig Cnwch
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Gro Hill
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Neuadd Glan-Gwy
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Beggar’s Bush
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Crossfoot Farm
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Gorllwyn
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Castle Ring (Old Radnor)
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Knobley Brook barrow
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Pen-y-Gorllwyn Stone
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Maen Cam
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Esgair Gwar-y-Cae Settlement
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Cwmade
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Gwaun Ymryson
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Carreg Bica
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Darren (Llanafanfawr)
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Mynydd Epynt (Eastern)
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Twyn-y-Post
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Beili Hwlyn Barrows
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Marteg Valley
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Beddau Folau
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Cefn Clawdd
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Maen Hir (Boughrood)
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Burfa Bank
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The Mount /
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Boughrood Court
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Maen Serth
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Clyro Court Farm
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Moll Walbee’s Stone
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Bryn yr Hydd
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Domen
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Banc Trehesglog, Cwmdeuddwr
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Banc Trehesglog, Cwmdeuddwr
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Rhos-y-Gelynnen
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Clap yr Arian
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Briddel Felen Standing Stone
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Garn Wen, Llanfihangel Abergwesyn
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Waun, Cwmdeuddwr
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Esgair Ceiliog
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Crugyn
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Gurnos
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