Sites within Oddendale
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Panorama Shot
Inner ring, looking south.
Southern arc, outer ring.
Lovely pink Shap granite in the outer ring.
The inner ring, looking northeast.
The southeastern arc of the outer circle. The edge of the inner circle can be seen on the far right.
Our first sight of the low stones of the circle, approaching from the NE.
The distant hill top is the 401 meter high cairn topped Coalpit hill, I think.
Looking north east to tree shrouded Oddendale, and past Crosby Ravensworth to the distant Pennines.
Looking north, to the slimy yuk of Hardendale quarry. The stone inbetween rings on the left aligns with distant Kemp Howe to the south west.
The stone inbetween rings aligns with distant Kemp Howe to the south west. Nice stones!
The outer ring with Seal Howe on the left horizon and Coalpit hill on the right, both cairned.
A splash of sunshine as we look south west over the inner ring.
A splash of sunshine ( but not on the M6, ptui ) as we look west towards Kemp Howe.
The three main stones of the smaller north ring.
There is some debate as to whether the inner cairn at Oddendale was contemporary with the outer ring. The builders of the inner cairn used granite erratics with one exception, this limestone boulder. This is a reflection of the use of a single limestone boulder in the outer ring.
The Oddendale circle was constructed using granite erratics, with one exception, this limestone boulder which points north when viewed from the centre of the circle.
The three prostrate boulders to the north of the circle. Waterhouse was unsure whether these stones had been displaced from the outer circle.
From 1850
Burl could find no sign of an entrance to the circle but remarks on a “small isolated and unexplained stone that stands halfway between the rings at the ESE”.
Burl could find no sign of an entrance to the circle but remarks on a “small isolated and unexplained stone that stands halfway between the rings at the ESE”.
07/02
The stones of this circle are of the same granite as at Kemp Howe.
The scar of Hardendale quarry.
The circle shares a view of the cement works with Kemp Howe.
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My first visit here ended in a big fat frustrated failure, it was about ten years ago, some years before I got online, so long ago that my youngest was still in nappies, more of which were urgently needed, and so my failure lasted for a decade, until now. Had I known what a beauty this place is I’d have been back ages ago, instead I only saw a photo of it a few years back and it’s been on the list since. Why it took me so long to get back up here I don’t know, it’s not much more than a ten minute walk from the car, close to a major road or two. Damn i’m good.
Park next to the big corner around the farm, head left of the limestone paving, go up to the big egg shaped stone and the low stone wall that is a bield (some kind of shelter) and the stone circles are on the hill top, dead easy, unless you stumble around mapless and in the wrong place like I did ten years ago.
Brilliant. Apart from the big quarry all is good up here, the M6 is small and far away, the nearby Coalpit hill tries to entice one away from the circles, don’t let it, and the views east and west to the Pennines and the inner lake district respectively are fantastic though distant.
The small northern ring is only half apparent, but for three big stones all would be lost to the turf.
The outer ring looks to be graded with the taller stones on the east, the inner ring seemed to echo this as the western stones were retreating under the grass. The inbetween stone is very interesting, half way between the two rings on the eastern side, it lines up with an outer ring stone and far off Kemp Howe now snuffed out by our need to travel. But, still all is well up here, the rings are in very good shape. Very good indeed. Get from off your arse now !!
I had a mooch about the circle last week to see if I could find the small ring to the north of the main circle. The ring is featured in Hob’s post of T.Blands 1850 sketch of the circle themodernantiquarian.com/post/38165 and was also recorded in John Waterhouses survey of the circle for his wonderful book ‘The Stone Circles of Cumbria’.
The ring is visible as a low mound with a few small stones barely poking through the soil. It’s a case of feeling for the stones rather than looking for them.
It’s interesting that both the nearby White Hag and Castlehowe Scar circles also have satellite features.
This is one of those times when I wish I had read the fieldnotes of others before visiting!
I set off up the right-hand path, believing this would offer the best route (or so my dodgy reading of the OS map led me to believe).
Ended up walking for AGES thinking “where the bleedin’ hell is it?“. Mind you, I got to see some amazing scenery and it was a warm and sunny day...
Follow the directions given by the others below and you shouldn’t go wrong... and be prepared for the fact that it is low-lying and not overly visible until you are almost on top of it.
Sunday 29 June 2003
We parked atthe bottom of the hill where the road turns left into a tree-surrounded farm.
Following the path south up onto the moor, there’s a nice bit of particularly ‘old-looking’ (if you see it you’ll know what I mean) limestone pavement off to the right.
Walk past this and still looking right, you’ll very quickly see various lumps of rock, including 2 ‘erratics’ that are noticeably bigger than anything else. Wait until these 2 biggest stones line up with each other and strike off the path towards them.
Walk straight past the erratics, perhaps a couple of hundred yards keeping in as straight a line as you can. This should lead you to a point where you can’t miss the Oddendale circle, if not to the circle itself!
And we’re back in Gunnerkeld territory – a double circle, but this time under a really, really HUGE sky!!!! On such a sunny clear breezy day it really was like standing on the roof of England!!!
Burl’s description of Oddendale calls it (and by implication, Gunnerkeld) a ‘composite ring’ and likens it to some on Dartmoor that I don’t think I’m familiar with. His description makes it sound almost like it was originally like a ‘mini-Clava Cairn or something….
The actual stones here are generally fairly small – smaller than Gunnerkeld, anyway I think. Otherwise, again Fitzcoraldo’s said it all! A beautiful place, though pretty inhospitable in bad weather and boggy a lot of the time, I suspect. Liked it a lot.
This is a beautiful concentric circle. I was inspired to come here by a lovely aerial photograph that Stubob sent me of the site. Photography on the ground is difficult due to the size of the circle (30 metres) and the flatness of the site. The inner ring is 5 metres across and is described by Burl as a paved ring cairn. This must have been something to see in it’s hayday.
You can see the factory chimneys of Shap quite clearly from this site which implies that the shap complexes would have been visible back in the day.
There is a stone between the outer and inner rings which forms an alignment with the cairn to the east, the circle and Shap. There are also three aligned boulders to the north of the circle.
In summary, an intriguing site, well worth a visit.
Always a highlight of a visit to the Shap area...The size and shape of the stones are just perfect. The limestone pavement you cross to get to the stones has some great formations in it, as it’s weathered thru the years.
Make sure you see this circle.
Keep an eye out for Ironman’s Oddendale Cairn I on the way up to the circle.
The Oddendale circle is completely surrounded by modern intrusions – the Shap cement works, the M6, a railway line, a quarry and a regimented plantation surround this site on all sides. However the site itself is in pretty good condition and is a great example of a concentric circle. The site is close enough to plenty of other sites (Iron Hill, Kemp Howe, Castlehowe, Gunnerkeld) to make it worth the visit.
“The one near Odindale Head is similar, at first sight inspires a truly Ossianic feeling. It is situated on a hill of “dark brown heath,” it is formed of an outer circle of thirty stones not so large as those at Gunnerskeld, twenty-five yards in diameter, within which is another circle of twenty-one stones closely packed to each other seven yards in diameter; within this are a number of other stones irregularly laid, similar to Gunnerskeld. It was opened in presence of Rev. J. Simpson, but nothing was found excepting a small portion of black carbonaceous matter. A peculiar feature is that there is an upright stone placed outside the inner and within the outer circle on the south-east side. On the north side about seven yards distant is the remains of another circle, fourteen yards in diameter, having another within of four yards, but many of the stones have been removed.
Respecting the origin of these circles authors differ considerably, some considering them to be the temples of the Druids, within whose mystic bounds sacrificial rites were performed; while others attribute them to a later people, the Pagan Saxons, Angles or Danes.
Odindale, like Gunnerskeld, is a name significant of the latter people. Odin was the one great god of the Gothic nations, from whom they all claimed descent, and to whom, of course, their greatest honours were paid.”
The Vale of Lyvennet
J.S. Bland
Published 1910
Shap Granite is very distinctive and easily identified by the large pink feldspar crystals contained within it’s matrix.
Shap granite is a very popular building stone and can be found used in buildings all over the UK.
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Sites within 20km of Oddendale
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Oddendale Standing Stone
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Seal Howe
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Oddendale Cairn I
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Oddendale Multi-Phase Ring Cairn (destroyed)
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Wicker Street
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Harberwain Stone
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White Hag
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Iron Hill
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Hardendale Fell
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Long Scar Pike
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White Hag Round Cairn
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Cow Green Long Barrow
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Castlehowe Scar Stone Row
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The Shap Avenues
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Kemp Howe
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Castlehowe Scar
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The Thunder Stone
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The Galloway Stone
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Robin Hood’s Grave
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Giant’s Foot
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Shap Wells
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The Thunder Stone
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The Goggleby Stone
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Threaplands (destroyed?)
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Aspers Field
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Shap Avenue
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Penhurrock
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Raise Howe
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Skellaw Hill
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Shap Barrow
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Broadfell Cairn
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Thunder Stone
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13 Stones
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Thunder Stone (Great Asby Scar)
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Cairns A & B
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Gunnerkeld
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Crosby Ravensworth Common
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Gaythorn Plain
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White Raise
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Hollin Stump
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Gamelands
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Wilson Scar
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Sunbiggin
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Shapbeck Plantation
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Gaisgill
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Little Kinmond
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Castle Folds
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Knipescar Common
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Scarside Plantation
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Knipe Moor
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Lousy Brow 2
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Sunbiggin Tarn
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Selside Pike
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Rayseat Pike
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Mazon Wath
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Four Stones Hill
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Towtop Kirk
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Castle Crags, Mardale
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Low Moor
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The Cop Stone
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Moor Divock
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Moor Divock SE
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Moor Divock Centre
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Low Raise
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Moor Divock Alignment
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Leacet Circle
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Skirsgill Hill
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Druidical Judgement Seat
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Cockpit Cairns
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White Raise
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The Cockpit
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Clifton Standing Stones
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High Raise
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Swarth Fell
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Brougham
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Rasett Hill
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Winderwath
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The Coombs, Martindale
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Potter Fell
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Little Round Table
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Mill Rigg Settlement
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Waitby Castle
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King Arthur’s Round Table
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Mayburgh Henge
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Scober
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Dunmallard Hill
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Honeypot Stone
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Troutbeck Park
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Skirsgill Standing Stone
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Maiden Castle (Ullswater)
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Croglam Castle
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Cautley Iron Age Settlement
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Beckstones
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Hird Wood Circle
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Rawthey Bridge
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Mallerstang Pillow Mounds
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Mallerstang Bronze Age Cairns
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Dovedale Henge
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Stag Stones Farm
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The Kirkstone
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High Hugill Settlement
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Sewborrans
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