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Shestu S
Shestu Jun 29, 2003 16:41:36
Replying to nigelswift

Yes Nigel, fear and control do have an ancient past...... why would an atheist give a shite about any reference to God? Speaking of fourwinds actually. Just like this thread things get jumbled and messed up in 3 days what do you think happens over thousands and thousands of years? Everyone has thier own interpretation of the SAME thing.... and I am convinced we are all talking about the same thing in this thread and bickering over inconsequential bits. Is it any wonder that we cannot remember a time when this world was not at war..... sad, makes me sick to me stomach. 8o(

N nigelswift
nigelswift Jun 29, 2003 16:54:17
Replying to Shestu

'ere 'ere' 'ere, I've not been bickering, I'm sitting here eating a bacon sandwich and looking at God and/or Nature being harmonious out of the window.

F FourWinds
FourWinds Jun 29, 2003 20:00:57
Replying to Shestu

"Is it any wonder that we cannot remember a time when this world was not at war"

Don't tell me you're one of these pathetic romantics that truly beileve there was a time and place when there was not war and we all lived happily?

Holy fuck! What complete bollocks that is. This is why I speak out so strongly against the 'one happy world under one happy mother goddess' crowd. I do agree that things certainly got a lot worse with the discovery of metal, and that there may have been times of stasis when certain localised groups lived in relative peace, but to think that the world was ever a time when it was not at war? This is what I hate about religion and any talk of "my spirituality being better than yours, so nyer"

It's all crap that divides and tears people apart, feeding the people who desire power and control. People that get their power by alienating others, mainly through race and religion.

There I've said it. 'Their' religion, 'your' spirituality is what allows the evil of mankind to have an excuse. All done in the name of God or whatever.

I've had several emails about this thread from people who don't want to comment on it for precisely this reason. Because they know it will lead to division, they have made an off thread comment and not got involved.

F FourWinds
FourWinds Jun 29, 2003 20:12:10
Replying to Shestu

"why would an atheist give a shite about any reference to God? Speaking of fourwinds actually."

Why would I give a shite? because TomBo made a statement that is fundamentally incorrect. The fall of man is very clearly defined in the Bible. I simply used a *real* example to state my case rather than getting into a debate using quotes etc. The fact that it is depicted in stone in the 10th century means more than a philosophical debate upon the actual words.

I always give a shit when someone states or restates something blatantly incorrect.

I don't give a toss upon the meaing of the Fall of Man or any other part of the Bible. The Old Testament is rehashed ancient Myth and St Paul was a woman hating wanker, which leads us to George Dubya and his cronies. I rest on my case, cause I'm tired :-)