The Modern Antiquarian. Stone Circles, Ancient Sites, Neolithic Monuments, Ancient Monuments, Prehistoric Sites, Megalithic MysteriesThe Modern Antiquarian




<b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postmanImage © Chris Bickerton
Also known as:
  • Cerrig y Ddinas
  • Llangelynin Holy Well

Nearest Town:Conwy (3km NNE)
OS Ref (GB):   SH75427395 / Sheet: 115
Latitude:53° 14' 51.22" N
Longitude:   3° 52' 2.34" W

Added by thesweetcheat

Discussion Topics0 discussions
Start a topic

Show map   (inline Google Map)

Images (click to view fullsize)

Add an image Add an image
<b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by thesweetcheat <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by postman <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by thesweetcheat <b>Cerrig-y-Ddinas</b>Posted by thesweetcheat


Add fieldnotes Add fieldnotes
It's been a long time coming has this, there's so many sites to see and frankly I just don't get as many chances to get out like this as I once did. I can remember getting out stone hunting at least three times a week, no weather too dismal, any time of day or night, no where too far, always throwing caution to the wind. Not any more. So, when everything comes together, sunshine, money and free time in the right place, it is exceedingly gratifying.

I parked by the 12th century church of St Celynnin, put me boots on, slung my camera over my shoulder left my window wound down and walked off across the field to the church.Oops.
The information board at the Lords house declares it as one of Conwy's best kept secrets, I don't know about it being very secret but it is in a very lovely place, it brings out a feeling of reverence in me that I like, it does not come upon me often, indifference and disappointment are my constant bed fellows. Getting out among the hills and ancient structures are a cure, and I swallow the medicine happily.

From the church a short ten minute walk north east brings one to the feet of the rocky island, there is a path for those who follow such things, I as ever made my own way there. From below the outcrop to the right I can make out a low wall with a gap in it, sheep does as she was bidden and goes the way I pointed. Then I follow her up into the settlement.
Determining the age of the low wall, and indeed all of the walling here is extremely difficult, Stewart Ainsworth from time team could no doubt make more sense out of it all than I could. So I just make my way up to the top of the rocks, the highest point is a small walled enclosure of undetermined date about twenty yards across. A small linear outcrop has a basin carved into one end, and the outcrop leads past a large boulder and down into the lower level. I just cant make out what is ancient and what is natural or what is modern so I give up, I'll take lots of pictures and folk can make up there own mind, should they posses one.
For now I am content to simply park my behind down on the high boulder at the top, legs swinging childishly over the edge. It is a truly wondrous view, as good as it gets on this little island. I try to make out where the burial chamber Hendre Waolod is, down in the fields across the river, behind me Tal y Fan rears it's 2001 foot high peak, but north west is my next target for the day, I could of coarse spend the whole day here, quite happily. But then I'd be disappointed in not seeing the other places. So I leave, on the way down I stumble a touch and nearly fall head first down the rocky slope, is it Cerrig Y Ddinas having a go for not staying longer, now that's anthropomorphising.

Several hours later I return to the car, and find all is well, nothing of report here, you don't get that down in the valleys.
postman Posted by postman
30th November 2014ce
Edited 30th November 2014ce


Add folklore Add folklore
It may be a bit cheeky to add the folklore for your well? But it's not far away and you'd imagine the inhabitants of the fort probably popped here for water? Once they'd used the amount up in that bullaun-style dip. I seem to remember the well featured in the BBC series 'Pagans and Pilgrims.'
In the south-east corner of the churchyard is St. Celynin's well, at one time of more than local fame. [...] The well was resorted to by mothers with weak and sickly children, as a last resource, to strengthen their limbs, and restore them to health. The children were immersed either early in the morning, or in the evening, and were afterwards wrapped in a blanket and allowed to sleep. There was always a spare bed for the sufferers, and a hearty welcome to the anxious mothers, at a farm a little to the south, called Cae Ial. The cures effected by the virtue of the waters are said to have been many. The efficacy of the well is not altogether disbelieved by the neighbouring inhabitants at the present time. With the water of this well, children were always baptized.

On the left hand side of the road that passes the churchyard, and about two hundred yards from it, is a small spring called Ffynnon Gwynwy. Any one troubled with warts, upon making an offering of a crooked pin to the well, lost them. Fifty years ago the bottom of this little well was covered with pins; everybody was careful not to touch them, fearing that the warts deposited with the pins would grow upon their own hands if they did so. But the belief in the efficacy of the water has departed, and the well presents the appearance of a hole filled with clear water, overgrown with weeds.
'Llangelynin Old Church, Caernarvonshire' by E Owen, in Archaeologia Cambrensis v13, January 1867.
Rhiannon Posted by Rhiannon
30th November 2014ce


Add miscellaneous Add miscellaneous
Coflein description:

Remains of a fort on a precipitous rocky peak.

Up to four discontinuous lines of walling, joining sections of crag, define an irregular enclosure, c.130m N-S by 70m overall, inner enclosure being c.50m N-S by 30m.
thesweetcheat Posted by thesweetcheat
31st July 2011ce