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Re: Rowtor Rocks, it's all fake
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Hob wrote:
Apologies to Baz for jumping in at a question directed to him, but I've got to point out that up in the RA zone of Northumberland, it's common to find areas which cry out for RA to be totally free of the things, even though there are other BA bits and bobs nearby. Often, it's the parts with the funny rock formations that are suspiciously free from adornment, which has led some to postulate that these areas were so special it was deemed inappropriate to carve upon them. Of course this is total speculation, and even if true wouldn't help much in supporting the idea of a prehistoric provenance for the Rowtor carvings.

I can't easily buy the idea that Rev. Eyre would have decided to put Irish Passage grave inspired carvings on an open air site in Derbyshire, but I guess it is theoretically possible. Then I wonder why if they are modern(ish) they look like they were pecked with a fairly blunt tool, not the kind of thing I'd associate with people who use iron tools, which anyone trying to implicate Druids in the 18thC would have probably used, as I am under the impression that even proto-druid-revivalists would have imagined something a bit more like the Rocky Valley carvings at Tintagel. But that's all just me filtering the stuff through my own bias. I loved Rowtor, didn't get to spend anywhere near enough time there.

On the subject of the strangeness of the larger motif, it had crossed my mind that the thing looks a bit like a flower with a cross. Like a rose and a cross? Rosy-cross - Rosicrucian. But I honestly can't place Rosicrucians in any sort of meaningful timeframe. When were they kicking about? And would they have carved something crudely onto a rock?


I totally understand the "crying out for RA" Hob, Bradley tor has loads more conveniently places rocky ledges / boulders than Rowtor rocks, i was bloody sure i'd find something but a solitary convincing, though unreported cup mark was all i could find, besides a modern badly carved skull and crossed bones that is.
Thing is, Rowtor was so conveniently placed for Eyre, basically in his garden and as a bloke with no need to work but interested in druidry and practising witchcraft amongst other things leads me to believe me he could be responsible for the whole lot.
If eyre did employ others to do the carvings what's to say he didn't employ complete amateurs to do the cup and rings, that'd certainly explain the crude style.
I dunno, too many things make me doubt the provenance of the carvings, maybe it's just me.

Btw, did you ever see my cup marked stone. ?
Half done with stone tools, half with metal ones, probably too neat to be convincing though.
I reckon if i put my mind to it i could come up with a well worn cup and ring, might even give it a try just for the hell of it.


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megadread
Posted by megadread
16th December 2009ce
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