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The Sea Cat Jan 21, 2011 12:52:48
Replying to handofdave

handofdave wrote:
"human right abuses, animal rights abuses, environmental abuses"

We still have a ways to go there, too..

Oh come on Dave. Surely it's a matter of proportion ? The impact of China re. polution, child labour, capital punishment, censorship, endangered species, whaling, Tibet, skinning live cats and dogs to make a purses etc& etc.

There is no comparison at all when you are talking about those degrees of extreme. That's just giving them a get out. There is no Mea Culpa here.

:-)

H handofdave
handofdave Jan 21, 2011 13:49:04
Replying to The Sea Cat

I understand what you mean... America and Britain were no better a hundred years ago, this is what I'm trying to stress.

China's really quite behind the west, still... the interior is still deeply isolated and poor (and backward).

We apply our modern western standards in judging them... I find myself doing it all the time. But you can't really expect someplace like China to just up and adopt our values overnight. It's a 4000 year old people who's culture is historically slow to accept outsiders.

If we treat China the way we've treated everyone else the west has considered 'backward' it's not going to lead to anything but trouble... the West only just yesterday (by Chinese standards) withdrew from its colonial, imperial period.