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treaclechops Jan 12, 2006 21:56:49
Replying to moss

Hi All,

Glad you liked the weblog.

"Mold/Yr Wyddgrug means 'the high hill' 'the burial ground', from the Nrman-French mont 'hill', hault 'high', Welsh yr 'the', gwydd 'tomb, cairn', crug 'mound'.

The Bailey Hill near the centre of Mold may well have had a cairn of stones or tumulus on it giving the Welsh 'Gwydd-grug'(Gythe Gruc, 1280-81) which became Yr Wyddgrug. This was also the hill on which the Normans built a castle (kastell yr wydgruc, 14th cent.). Tracing the development of the modern name from Norman-French is difficult since many early references are in Latin documents but the probable development was Mont-hault to 'Mohault' and then to Mold. There is a strong possibility that the original name transferred from France, where ther are several places called Monthault (as happened with Montgomery)."

A Pocket Guide to Place Names From Wales - Hwyel Wy Owen

Hope that clears it up! Still fab to be living in such an important Bronze Age area . .

treaclechops x

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moss Jan 13, 2006 08:22:30
Replying to treaclechops

Thanks for the word breakdown.... I am reading the book of Welsh saints(800 I think) so it struck me that Mold was an "edge" place for Saxon/British, forgetting of course the Normans in the middle.
Also had just read a story about St.Beuno. Apparently, whilst out walking by the side of a river he heard a Saxon calling his hounds on the other bank, he rushed back to his monks, ordered them to put on their clothes and shoes and leave this place. For he had heard "an abominable strange language..." they have invaded this land and will keep it in ownership"

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