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I never said it was a good thing. Here are some random thoughts. There are manuscripts from around the 10th-12th Century (about the time the Sheelas probably date from) where monks/priests write of the evils of women and that they are dirty creatures that shouldn't even be looked upon etc...

I'm not too sure that this was an attitude change that arrived with Christianity. I think the patriarchal wankness is much older. I think the people who think that there was a more equal and balanced society pre-Christian era are, again, chasing an ideal.

You probably have to go back to the mesolithic, to the hunter gatherer stage, to find any level of equality. I think the introduction of farming and a more settled way of life was when the change of attitude started to occur. That's when the women started to become 'house bound'.

I know there are matriarchal societes recorded, but they are recorded as oddities. People like Boudica and Jean d'Arc are figures that stand out because they are unusual for there times.

As an aside, which speaks slightly against the above to an extent - loads of people come to Tara each year and many women's groups sing the praises of St. Riordain (sp?). He held one of the three synods at Tara. He is often hailed as one of the first women's rights movers - in the 8th century .... yeah right! This is because he got the Irish kings to agree that women should not be allowed to fight in the army. How this is perceived as a move for women's rights is beyond me. Anyway, what it does say is that in Ireland, until the 8th century, women were expected to fight in battle alongside the men. This guy stops them being allowed to and gets praised for it. It's always confused me a little.

As I said ... just some random thoughts.

If you have read anything about Crete and the Minoan's you will see what I am talking about. Not Matriarchy/Patriarchy but balance. This civilization was highly evolved and peaceful.

I agree it is rare that a woman should spear head a war, all the more reason to have a choice in the matter (wether to fight it or not). Most wars are created by men, which is not a slur on men but an indication of imbalance masculine/feminine. We all have masculine/feminine in us, it is not either/or but yes and both. Some men and women enjoy a fight. Some men and women don't. Men and women should not be forced to do or be something that goes totally against thier nature.

Without a doubt thier are inequalities on both sides but it has been created by our societies and is not a bilogical fact. Men and Women would not suffer if society came into balance but become partners instead of sparring partners. Obviously men can't have babies and I doubt there are many who wish they could. Men are stronger and usually more courageous (although this may be caused by society). All I am saying is that we are different yet equal and should play to our strengths whatever they may be. In balance.