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>> Why bring my mother into this? Unforgivable!

FFS, I already explained the thing behind that. It's a Black Country thing. Stupid, but it's one of those habits that sticks. Someone doesn't like something. The usual line is that their mother was scared by one. Blame Hancock!

You're obviously the sort of bloke who loved his mother dearly. Sorry!

My commiserations to Earthstepper at his recent sad loss.

As a Brummie I can confirm that I've often been asked "Was/did your mother ..(fill in as appropriate)...when you were in the womb? I've never taken it as a sleight against my mother, simply because I always know that that was never intended. Of course, we do tend to become sensitive to such questions at devastating times.

I'd just like to say:

*I'm no one's sheep!* :o)

And, along with all but one or two hereabouts:

*I hate schisms within 'my' community!* :o(

Peace and Love to all,

Baz