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Rhiannon Aug 20, 2007 16:12:32
Replying to Snap

Hi Snap. I've never gone and tried to dowse at any stones. I don't suppose many people have. It's easy to think it's rubbish because it doesn't fit in with generally held ideas about the material world which most people have in our culture in the 21st century. Part of me is very scientific and rational, the bit that poo-poohs it so I feel too embarrassed to to and dowse at a stone. But there's another bit of me that's very fortean and thinks people shouldn't dismiss people (like you)'s experiences so lightly. (it's not really the point, but it relates to why I am intrigued by experiences (and stories) of fairies and suchlike) because what are such experiences based on? Maybe they serve a purpose in a culture, and maybe they're based on real experiences based on the way our brains work.
I really like 'needles of stone' and reread it recently. It's easy to say 'dowsing is rubbish and doesn't work' and that may be true. But to the people doing it, they are experiencing Something are they not? (not all of them can be pretending..) And what's that Something?

Also. It's not so hard to put things in straight lines - the Romans were very good at it and they just had their low-tech 'groma's.

there's more things in heaven and earth etc.. and the best way to find out the truths of things is to experiment. Which is like wot you are doing.

I know some people will think opening your mind too far lets your brain fall out. But I know as I keep learning about science, social science, art etc my outlook on things has altered, and I think it's good to shake your brain up and see things from a new perspective sometimes.

F FourWinds
FourWinds Aug 20, 2007 16:17:25
Replying to Rhiannon

I myself believe that some people can dowse. I also believe that they are probably detecting things we already know about, not something 'otherworldly' and new.

T tiompan
tiompan Aug 20, 2007 16:28:02
Replying to Rhiannon

Rhiannon wrote:
Hi Snap. I've never gone and tried to dowse at any stones. I don't suppose many people have. It's easy to think it's rubbish because it doesn't fit in with generally held ideas about the material world which most people have in our culture in the 21st century. Part of me is very scientific and rational, the bit that poo-poohs it so I feel too embarrassed to to and dowse at a stone. But there's another bit of me that's very fortean and thinks people shouldn't dismiss people (like you)'s experiences so lightly. (it's not really the point, but it relates to why I am intrigued by experiences (and stories) of fairies and suchlike) because what are such experiences based on? Maybe they serve a purpose in a culture, and maybe they're based on real experiences based on the way our brains work.
I really like 'needles of stone' and reread it recently. It's easy to say 'dowsing is rubbish and doesn't work' and that may be true. But to the people doing it, they are experiencing Something are they not? (not all of them can be pretending..) And what's that Something?

Also. It's not so hard to put things in straight lines - the Romans were very good at it and they just had their low-tech 'groma's.

there's more things in heaven and earth etc.. and the best way to find out the truths of things is to experiment. Which is like wot you are doing.

I know some people will think opening your mind too far lets your brain fall out. But I know as I keep learning about science, social science, art etc my outlook on things has altered, and I think it's good to shake your brain up and see things from a new perspective sometimes.

I was involved at a dig last year which had been geofizzed and also dowsed . I have also tried it , inhaled and nothing much happened .When tested under lab conditions they don't seem to do to well but then Donovan the dowser seems to earn a living at it . There is also that bio phenomena , can't remember the term but magicians/grifters use it , very small muscular movements it is possible tha tdowsing amplifies that in which case Nigel's rod on a stick would behave differently from the one in the hand .

S Snap
Snap Aug 20, 2007 16:56:42
Replying to Rhiannon

"so I feel too embarrassed to to and dowse at a stone" so did I but after so many things happening to me which i could not explain away ie the story about the Bhudists. I would never have know there was a monestry in Sadleworth, and they way that they saw my pain and helped. Then going into oxfam finding needles of stone first issue as new and thinking that sound intresting. Reading it and finding the palm stone at Avebury it's quite a strange stone possably Bluestone writing that poem and so on. I decided to try dowsing as a way of self healing(coz i am waiting for cognative theropy NHS 7mths) i thought what the hell and so i started dabbling at a smalll secluded site and found there was something maybe its in my head i don't care its helping(which is more than i can say for my employers NWAS ) and then i started to find out thigs just trying to share but not bothered if no one belives me . I just hope it may help someone else and its far better than using alchol as a crutch to switch your head off
Snap