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"so I feel too embarrassed to to and dowse at a stone" so did I but after so many things happening to me which i could not explain away ie the story about the Bhudists. I would never have know there was a monestry in Sadleworth, and they way that they saw my pain and helped. Then going into oxfam finding needles of stone first issue as new and thinking that sound intresting. Reading it and finding the palm stone at Avebury it's quite a strange stone possably Bluestone writing that poem and so on. I decided to try dowsing as a way of self healing(coz i am waiting for cognative theropy NHS 7mths) i thought what the hell and so i started dabbling at a smalll secluded site and found there was something maybe its in my head i don't care its helping(which is more than i can say for my employers NWAS ) and then i started to find out thigs just trying to share but not bothered if no one belives me . I just hope it may help someone else and its far better than using alchol as a crutch to switch your head off
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and then i started to find out thigs just trying to share but not bothered if no one belives me.....

That of course is as it should be sharing etc, just because there is a whole bunch of rationalists and sceptics on TMA doesnt mean that you can't explore and find out different things..... Not read the thread but you put up a good fight ;)

I gotta admire your staying power!

I've also had my fair share of strange experiences. I want to try to explain the experiences I have had in scientific terms, otherwise, to some extent, they are meaningless. Unless we can find ways to pass these experiences on, and explain the underlying processes, the public at large will never accept the concepts. It is important to maintain a certain rigor in describing them, or they will be dismissed. That does not mean they are not real to you. To me, a huge part of the experience of life is struggling to explain how the magical and the mystical experiences we undergo actually work.

I've had a few beers. It's late. Please forgive me if I make no sense!

*sorry to go off standard TMA topic