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Can a non-believer have a mystical or spiritual experience?
(your words)

YES! (rightly or wrongly) the drug e and the drug lsd has brought me to such a mind state many many times
whereby I felt a loss of self~identity and a richness of perception and reality felt devine . I believe that these buddhist monks were visiting the same place through meditation. Could it be that (like Huxley believed) that the senses are filters that allow only so much *reality*
to flow into our minds however under the Influence of such chemicals or meditive mind states the senses filter (fer lack of a better word) is suddenly opened up allowing the Mystical state to happen. *Maybe* this is something that some only feel at the moment of ones death? Like I stated over on head heritage forum
*my mind has been opened*
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YES! (rightly or wrongly) the drug e and the drug lsd has brought me to such a mind state many many times
whereby I felt a loss of self~identity and a richness of perception and reality felt devine . I believe that these buddhist monks were visiting the same place through meditation.

It's similar, Charlie, but it's not the same thing.

Ahayuasca(sp?) and mescalin, peyote etc. too, drug experiences are just that, drug experiences.

Pleasant, insightful, mystical even, maybe similar, but not the same as Buddhist meditation. There is no quick fix to Nirvana.


Rune