The Modern Antiquarian. Stone Circles, Ancient Sites, Neolithic Monuments, Ancient Monuments, Prehistoric Sites, Megalithic MysteriesThe Modern Antiquarian

Head To Head   The Modern Antiquarian   Saith Maen Forum Start a topic | Search
Saith Maen
Re: What criteria for a natural TMA monument?
67 messages
Select a forum:
tiompan wrote:
GLADMAN wrote:
tiompan wrote:
I can still recall the jaw dropping first sight of Fell Runners , but it is as much their "playground " as ours or barefoot ascenders of "holy hills " .
It's very common for locals not to visit their local hill top /museum and not that long ago not venture out of the parish or county .
Ethnography has examples of locals hardly noticing the backdrop of local hills , some may bother to investigate but if they are unimportant economically and don't overly influence the weather they are basically ignored . None of that helps with prehistoric attitudes though . Oliver and Edmonds clearly believed the Neolithic quarriers were different from us in their attitude to the landscape at Langdale .


Granted that access to the countryside is everybody's right in the legal sense. But in my opinion - very naive in today's world, I accept - you forego that right morally (legally, of course it would be impossible to police) if you show no respect for anyone else or the landscape itself. Damaging cairns for the sake of your own comfort, filling them with rubbish (the volume of c-ration trash I've come across tells its own story), hurtling dangerously down tracks on mountain bikes, even worse on trail bikes (a major problem in South Wales) or simply on foot to achieve a better 'time' - and bollocks to anyone who happens to be in the way - is not on and should be opposed by anyone who gives a damn. I'm no hero, so keep my mouth shut when ocassionally confronted with groups of soldiers out training who clearly don't give a monkey's, or multiple bikers above the Rhondda, but letters to commanding officers/councils etc may be doing some good. I hope so. Ignorance is no defence, but it is an explanation and can perhaps be alleviated.

I would argue that what I do has minimal negative impact upon other hill users. In general this is not true of many other user groups. You wouldn't accept such actions on the street without comment, so why is it so on the hills?


I agree . I rarely encounter anyone these days avoid the major hills/honeypots at week ends keep an eye on the car parking i.e. if there are any ,go elsewhere or take another less obvious route , like dumping the map it can prove to be an eye opener . You can still manage solitude , up here anyway . I remember when the the area between the Mamores and Grey Corries was often an unofficial shooting range for drunken squaddies , loud and dangerous .


I have been reading and relating to these exchanges with great interest, and thank you for the post you made yesterday morning Gladman (it lifted my spirits) - hope one day you'll think about putting a book together.

It seems we are all of the same mind when we talk about finding some unspoilt solitude to appreciate nature and a sense of the timelessness. Speaking as someone who lived in London for many years and found entering the Underground something that took a certain amount of gritted teeth resolve - getting out onto high unpeopled places is one of my great joys in life. It is disheartening though when places like the ancient Ridgeway become unwalkable because it has been churned up by 4x4s and motor bikes.


Reply | with quote
tjj
Posted by tjj
27th February 2011ce
11:34

Messages in this topic: