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"Of course St Paul's is on Ludgate Hill where King Lud is buried."

Wow, I didn't realise that, although I'd heard that London contained a Ludgate. Feels like another jigsaw piece falling into place.

"I thought Wan was related to the Wanes / Vanes or Vanir and so just means god?"

Quite possibly. I haven't the time to lay my hands on the quote from the Eddas right now (I just tried and it's proving elusive, although I know it's in there somewhere!), but they say something along the lines of "I was Ygg who became Wan". The implication is that Ygg (unhatched, like an egg!) was Odin's name before he hung on the world tree (named for Ygg) in shamanic initiation and that Wan was his name afterwards. Equating these names with these two opposing "states" of the shaman (ie. uninitiated and initiated) doesn't necessarily contradict what you're saying, I guess.

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Posted by TomBo
11th August 2004ce
15:44

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Re: ludowanus (Wyrd Brother)

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WYRD WALKS

(Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 04:02)

Re: WYRD WALKS (FourWinds, Jul 20, 2004, 07:13)
- masonic pentagrams (TomBo, Jul 20, 2004, 07:36)
  - Re: masonic pentagrams (Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 22:53)
    - Re: masonic pentagrams (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 05:46)
      - Humour me (FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 06:35)
        Re: Humour me (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 08:03)
        Re: Humour me (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 08:07)
        Re: Humour me (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:11)
        – (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:12)
        Re: Humour me (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:14)
        Re: Humour me (FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 15:39)
        Re: Humour me (wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 18:08)
        Re: Humour me (FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 18:43)
        Re: Humour me (wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 20:53)
        Re: Humour me (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 19:43)
        bob (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 21:01)
        Re: bob (TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 21:01)
      - Re: masonic pentagrams (Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 04:36)
- Re: WYRD WALKS (Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 22:23)
  - Re: WYRD WALKS (FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 06:48)
    - Re: WYRD WALKS (wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 09:25)
      - Re: WYRD WALKS (Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 04:47)
      - Re: WYRD WALKS (Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 05:22)
        saint paul's (TomBo, Jul 22, 2004, 10:54)
        Re: saint paul's (Wyrd Brother, Jul 30, 2004, 06:26)
        Re: saint paul's (wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 08:10)
        Pol's stump a London Moot? (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:13)
        ludowanus (TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:01)
        Re: ludowanus (TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:03)
        Re: ludowanus (wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 18:18)
        Re: ludowanus (TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:43)
        lughnasadh salutations one and all! (TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:44)
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! (TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:46)
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! (FourWinds, Jul 30, 2004, 19:21)
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! (wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 23:10)
        llew's llaw (TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 06:48)
        Muddy waters (fitzcoraldo, Aug 12, 2004, 13:04)
        Re: ludowanus (Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 05:23)
        ygg and wan (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:44)
        Ludi Compitales (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:16)
        balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 07:26)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 07:28)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 08:07)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (Kozmik_Ken, Jul 31, 2004, 10:44)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (wideford, Jul 31, 2004, 13:50)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 06:04)
        baal (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:33)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 15:50)
        the "new" world (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 16:12)
        Re: the "new" world (Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 18:18)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 05:46)
        Phoenican Baal (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:50)
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (sam, Aug 11, 2004, 17:03)
        loxias (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:14)
        lux (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:17)
        Apollo and the Hyperboreans (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:33)
        Re: Apollo and the Hyperboreans (TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:35)
        Re: Apollo and the Hyperboreans (Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 19:45)
    - Re: WYRD WALKS (Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 05:08)
      - Sacred springs and wells? (Megalithic, Aug 11, 2004, 18:23)
      - le Gib returns (briefly) (RiotGibbon, Sep 03, 2004, 11:33)

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