grufty jim wrote: Corbyn is far from the radical left-winger he's being portrayed as (particularly by The Telegraph) but he is probably about as far left as it's possible to get today and still be part of the political mainstream.
Which is a sad indictment of modern political discourse as opposed to an endorsement of Corbyn!
That said, I sincerely hope he gets elected as Labour leader as it is only by taking a first step in that direction that the leftward path will ever be rediscovered. By becoming leader, Corbyn could begin shifting the centre. Space to the left of him will open up as a legitimate position and The Greens might even find themselves as part of the mainstream discussion (in the eyes of the media, that is... arguably a large part of the public already takes them fairly seriously).
I am a little concerned though that there simply might not be enough like-minded people left within the Labour Party (at MP level) to form a united shadow cabinet. And with an army of Blairites on his back-benches briefing against him at every opportunity, he might struggle to be an effective party leader.
I'm also concerned that the UK public has already moved so far rightward that they might buy into "loony left" nonsense peddled by The Mail and The Telegraph. I am (sadly) of the opinion that large groups of people can be indoctrinated and manipulated far easier than most assume. I think the ideology of the free market has been forcefully rammed down our throats in subtle (and not so subtle) ways for more than a generation now. And I think that's worked.
Which is why the most terrifying analysis of the UK 2015 election results, for me, was looking at the number of people who voted Tory + UKIP + LibDem (i.e. unambiguously right wing). And that was during an election where the main opposition, Labour, was offering a manifesto that was Centre Right at best.
If Corbyn becomes Labour leader I think there's a strong possibility he could split the party (with a number of the more right wing Labour figures moving into the decimated LibDems, who badly need the influx right now). That may not be a bad thing in the medium-to-long term, but it will guarantee a Tory government for the next decade.
How fantastic a reply is that. Cynical, but probably true. What do we do?
Reply | with quote | Posted by carol27 16th July 2015ce 13:08 |
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