This would be a nice site to take in on a journey to Galway. It is just south of the town of Loughrea and there seems to be public access to the site.
It seems to be a cross between a barrow or mound and a stone circle.
Tricky to see some of the remains at ground level but Westropp gives what I think sounds like a bit of a far fetched account of Clogher Hill and its surrounding assembly area / barrow cemetery.
There are barrows marked on the OS map however they are not that large and would require a complete fieldwalk of the area to record them all.
Here is Westropps account of the Clogher Hill assembly area below, it is very confusing.
Oenach Culi Mna Nechtain or Clochair – The traveller who passes from Dublin to Cork, if he watches the beautiful changing views of the great Galtees and the Ballyhoura mountains in southern County Limerick, can also see two salient points of the the legendary battlefield of the High King, Cormac Mac Airt, and Fiacha Muillethan, King of Thomond. The long ridge, with the rugged peel tower of the O’Hurleys, near Knocklong Station and the great beech-clad mound of Aghadoon, on a slope beside the Morning Star River, the ancient Saimer, once an imposing river, now a small and shrunken stream. The ridge is the “Druim Damhgaire” (oxen ridge) and the mote the “Raithin an Imaraigh” where the opposing druids fought, with all the “high explosives of up-to-date magic”.
Driving from Knocklong, not by the direct road, to the south east but by the road south of the ridge to the “Cross of the Tree” we pass, on the edge of a plateau, a little green tumulus, called Clogherbeg Mote. The name, with that of Clogher Hill, is all that the chief cemetery and assembly of the Dergthene, the tribe sprung from “Nia Segamain of the Siabra” or god race, from the great gods Lug Long Hand and Nuada Silver Hand, afterwards froming the branch (so famous in Irish history) of the Eoghanacht of Cashel and the Dal Cais, the tribes ruled by Brian Boroimhe.
May I be so far personal as to take my own case as an illustration of the merits of field survey? I was absolutely in ignorance when I recorded the remains at Slieveragh and Clogherbeg that I had at last found the Temair Erann, and was about to identify independently Oenach Culi. Mr P.J. Lynch had placed the latter correctly at Clogherbeg, but only on literary grounds, for he gave no note of the remains, and I had not recalled his brief paragraph. I unfortunately held (with O’Donovan, like Mr Orpen and Father Hogan) that Oenach Culi was at Monasteranenagh. The remains clearly marked a spot of the first importance; if so, what was this Clogher Hill and Clogherbeg? The ridge of Knockainey lies away to the north, the blue Galtees and purple Slievereagh to the south, in full view of Clogher Hill. The Mesca Ulad tells how Cu Chulaind, after he had gone up Knockainey to look round and identify the landmarks, led the Ulstermen southward, toward Cenn Febrat, coming to the Oenach Sen Clochair. The Agallamh tells how St Patrick coming from Cullen to Ardpatrick “skirted the Oenach of Nechtan’s wife Cuil, not called the heifer-carrying Oenach Sen Clochair, past Cenn Febrat of Sliabh Caoin. These two lines as described cross each other at Clogherbeg. The charter of Prince John to Monasteranenagh Abbey, in about 1186, places Enaculi at Corbali, and the townland of Corbally adjoins the townlands in which the earthworks remain. Few ancient sites are better
identified.Now the Senchas na Relec tells us in its account of “the chief cemeteries of Erin before the Faith” that Temair Erann was where “the Clann Deda – ie the race of Conaire and the Ernai (buried), at Temair Erann; the men of Mumhan i.e, the Derghene at Oenach Chuli and Oenach Colmain”. Every outstanding name of note (hero or heroine, save Curoi, who was buried on Slieve Mish) appears in the list of graves on Cenn Febrat in MacCraith’s poem (circa A.D. 900-1014). The question arises what princes of the Dergthene lay at Oenach Culi?
Legends give the following as buried elsewhere – Mog Neid, in a sod grave on Magh Tualaing in Ely O’Carroll, King’s County, Eogan Mog Nuadat and his brother in law under two tumulit at Oeanach Colmain Elo (wherever it tlay) perhaps near Tullamore, in the same county, near Magh Leana. Oilioll Aulom was buried on the summit of Claire (on Slievereagh, probably in the curved wall, above his fort of Dun Claire), his seven sons near Magh Mucrimhe and Cormac Cass, in Duntryileague. Then we have no further account, so perhaps Oenach Culi was founded, or adopted, about A.D. 250 by Fiacha Muillethan. There, possibly, the Dal Cais princes, Mog Corb, Fer Corb, Aengus Tireach, Lugaid Meann, and Connel Eachluath, are laid, but there is not even legend. It has been asserted on the cited authority of the Dind Senchas that Lugaid was buried under a cairn a Ludden, further north, but (when we verify the statement) he made the cairn there to keep a tally of his men before his invasion of the present County Clare. His ordinary residence is there said to have been on Magh Femen.
Turning down from the “Cross of the Tree” towards Ballylanders to Galbally, we cross a stream and find a number of curious earthworks to the west of the road in the townland of Raheenamadra, on to the border of Mitchellstown-Down, Raheenamaddra, is a platform fort, a low mote, such as abound in this district; we have, at least fifteen, Rathbane or Bulgadin, Ligadoon, Aghadoon, Atheneasy, four in Knocklong, three in Cushand Ballinvreena at the foot of Slievereagh, Glenbrochain or Ballingarry Down; Rahanna and Raheenamaddra; “the dog’s little fort.“. Their number precludes the idea that they are inauguration mounds, or feudal castles, and scattered across such an extent they clearly belong to no one cemetery, they are most probably residential, and Glenbroghaun Mote, at the foot of Sliab Claire is more than probably the Rath of Broccan near Claire in the Tripartite Life.
In the first field on the S. E. plateau we find a long hollow, running N. and S., probably the boundary of the Oenach, the track of an old road runs E. and W. beside a low platform, hardly a yard high, with a shallow fosse, 6 feet to 9 feet wide, round it. The eastern angles are rounded, and it measures about 63 feet by 93 feet.
Another double track runs to two shallow hollows, evidently like the ponds at Tailltiu, a low mound stands between them. Another hollow way runs from them at right angles and toward the S.W. We cross the valley and stream in that direction, and climb the farther slope to the summit of the S.W. plateau called Knockaunataffiff, “the Bull’s mount” which commands a beautiful view of the mountain. It is quite possible that it is a casual name, like “Stagpark” and “Bullpark” elsewhere, but when we consider the it is the principal height of this great Oenach, and the connection of supernatural animals with such sites, the name is worth reflection. The “Prison of (the holy horse) Liath Macha” remained in the Brugh and the fort of it and its companion steed, Dub Sainglenn at Raith na h echraide, lay between Dundalk and the sea. There was a horse oracle at Dunbin, W. from Dundalk, and weird creatures, the Luchduin, perhaps a giant fox, wolf, or even mouse the many-legged carapaced Mata and not a few others as we noted.We passed a terrace, possibly natural, and find on the summit twin tumuli suggesting “the two breasts of the Morrigu” at Brugh – is it too daring to fancy these may have been called “the two breasts of Cuil, Nechtan’s wife”? Being on a slope, they are from 10 feet to 13 feet higt to the eastm and 5 feet to 6 feet high to the west. A fence has been made between them, and the northern is in the long “screen” or plantation on the border of Mitchellstown Down. The southern mound is best preserved, a very shallow fosse delimits its base, and it rises in three stages, 5 feet, 5 feet, and 3 feet, in all 13 feet high, to the S., 10 feet to the N. end. The whole work is about 90 feet long, the summits were flat, 13 feet and 15 feet across. These command a view northward to Clogherbeg Mote. To the S.E, near the summit of the rise, is a small platform, 5 feet high, 6 feet across, with a fosse 12 feet wide, and a trace of an outer ring to the S.E. The long slope northward forms a natural amphitheatre commanding a view of any ceremonies performed at the conjoined mounds. A large shallow pond liews at the foot whence traces of two old roads run eastward. The conjoined mounds are very characteristic. They are 4 feet to 5 1/2 fett high, somewhat D-shaped, about 61 feet by 30 feet, and 78 feet by 81 feet, the first dimension being east and west. The western was walled with a drystone revetment of large slabs. It is not improbable that the mounds were dedicated to Nechtan and Cuil. The fosse is nearly obliterated in many parts; it is 9 feet wide, and had an outer ring, 6 feet thick, to the south of which the old road runs. About 200 feet awat is another circular platform of the same height, about 81 feet to 88 feet across, with a fosse. At 56 feet to the S.W. is a regular shallow, oval hollow, 3 feet feep and 18 feet to 25 feet across. Near it is a great block of stone, 3 feet 8 inches by 3 feet by 3 feet 6 inches. Another nearly buried block is to the N.E of the conjoined works.
This ogham stone was seemingly originally on Knockfierna at one stage.
Ogham Stone
This Ogham Stone was seemingly found on Knockfierna in 1837.
homepage.eircom.net/~asduchasdochas/homeweb2/map/info/knockfierna.html
Im not sure how it found its way to Ballingarry house.
The stone is in a paddock just to the left of a newer bungalow house.
The day I viewed there was no one to ask permission of. However i would recommend asking because access its obtained via the main drive into the house.
The stone itself has an unusual texture on one side. Its is about 1.75 metres tall.
The is mention of it in
Westropp, T.J. 1907. The “Knockfierna” ogham stone, County Limerick. J. Roy. Soc. Antiq. Ireland 37, 242–245.
I have not read this article, if anyone has could they please let me know what it says.
This is a conjoined Rath or ringfort. Unusually there is a stream running through the middle of the two ringforts.
To the east are the remains of a cairn with a cist.
RSAI 1919 – The Ancient Places of Assembly in the Counties Limerick and Clare
“The conjoined rings of Baunteen, with a cairn near them, lying below the great “Harps” formed by coombs and parallel watercourses on the flanks of the Galtees, the ancient Crotta Cliach, may be connected with the divine harper, Cliu, who played on two harps and gave the mountain its name. The cairn had a cist.”
The OS map clearly shows a cairn at this site.
However there is no sign of remains of it at ground level. Westropp below states that the cairn had a cist in it.
To the west is a conjoined Rath or ringfort. Unusually there is a stream running through the middle of the two ringforts.
RSAI 1919 – The Ancient Places of Assembly in the Counties Limerick and Clare
“The conjoined rings of Baunteen, with a cairn near them, lying below the great “Harps” formed by coombs and parallel watercourses on the flanks of the Galtees, the ancient Crotta Cliach, may be connected with the divine harper, Cliu, who played on two harps and gave the mountain its name. The cairn had a cist.”
The Motte with my lovely assistant for a bit of perspective
The link in the above website doesnt work so I have posted this plan.
Last time i looked, Knockfierna wasnt on Google Earth so this Aerial photo may be of use.
Link doesnt seem so to get to the photo, click the menu for photos.
A number of interesting pics of what I believe to me the tomb I couldnt find in the pine plantation.
It may be possible to figure out its location if it still exists from them.
Old Photo of Lough Gur O, interesting to anyone who has been to it. It looks a lot different today, much more over grown.
Old photo of the wedge tomb
This is an interesting site and the history is conflicting with some saying it was built by the Normans and others saying it dates back further.
The fact that it is associated with Fairy music for me at least suggests that it dates further than this.
To get there turn off the n8 for Cahir and then follow the sign for knockgraffon by turning right over the motorway bridge. From there keep with the road and u cant miss it. It is on the left hand side
I really like this site, its very peaceful on top and the views are amazing. For me there is a definite feeling of this being older than a motte and it would be interesting to see what excavation would reveal. Even geophysics would reveal a lot id say.
Knockgraffon.--Another noted Munster palace was Cnoc-Rafonn, now called Knockgraffon, three miles north of Caher in Tipperary, where the great mound, 60 or 70 feet high, still remains, with the ruins of an English castle beside it. Here resided, in the third century, Fiacha Muillethan [Feeha-Mullehan], king of Munster, who, when the great King Cormac mac Art invaded Munster in an attempt to levy tribute, defeated him at Knocklong and routed his army: an event which forms the subject of the historical tale called “The Siege of Knocklong.”
The fort is now as noted for fairies as it was in times of old for royalty: and one of the best known modern fairy stories in connexion with it will be found in Crofton Croker’s “Fairy Legends of Ireland” namely, “The Legend of Knockgrafton.” This Irish legend has been turned into English verse, but with much interpolation, by Thomas Parnell in his ballad, “A Fairy Tale.”
from
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Secret Sights book has this to say
“renowned as a place of otherworldly music. It was widly reputed in the 19th Century to be a place where ceolsidhe, the music of enchantment, could be heard.”
“it has an ancient well, where Fiacha had placed silver cups for anyone wishing to drink, to offer hospitality and show his rule of law.
7th century poem about it
“This great rath on which I stand
Wherein is a little well with a bright silver drinking cup
Sweet was the voice of the wood of blackbirds
Round this rath of Fiacha, son of Moinche”
(Joyce, 1913)
link to a pic of it.
This bullaun is to the left rear of the church in Ballindangan. Not the most impressive of bullaun stones, it is located beside some fairly smelly toilets.
This is a lovely standing stone, seemingly it is 3.4m tall. It is just outside the town of Glanworth (near the tomb of Labbacallee).
Access isnt too bad. I parked at a new house on the left hand side with a gate into a field with some wheat in it and went in thru about 3 fields all of which had crops in them but you could walk along the edge. From the gate it is about 500m.
One edge of the stone at the top has an unusual groove shape in it, like a U shape.
Standing stone with stick for comparison, walking stick is over 1m long
This is harder to get to than u would think.
It looks to be in good condition and in state care but it is actually about two fields in past a farmyard with no access to it. The road is a dead end and there is nowhere to park so i just left it as far in off the road as I could and quickly got in and out.
Its a pity because its a nice site and it would be nice to spend more time at it.
The little village just below Seefin is actually Glenosheen. It is said to come from Gleann Oisin, meaning the Glen of Oisin and this according to legend is where Oisin fell off his horse after returning from Tir na nOg.
From the village of Ardpatrick you cant really miss it.
The town below has an interesting information board with the following info about Ardpatrick.
Even now, hundreds of years after the last monks left the summt, it radiates timelessness and separation from the modern world below. However Christain monks were not the first to appreciate the prominence of this hill, which is part of the Ballyhouras. A series of earthen banks and enclosures near the summot date from the Iron Age (500BC – 500AD). Its later adaption as a monastic settlement suggests that it had a religious significance prior to the arrival of Christianity.
According to local tradition, Saint Patrick founded the monastery in the fifth century. In later times, it collected tributes (payments?) from all the province of munster, which were then paid to Patricks Archdioscese of Armagh. The round tower, north-west of the church ruin, (of which only a stump now remains), is evidence of Ardpatricks ecclesiastical importance.
ballyhoura.com/attractheritageframe2.htm
Here on the summit of Ardpatrick are the remains of an Early Christian monastery. According to tradition, St. Patrick founded a monastery here in the 5th century, however modern scholars doubt if the saint ever came as far south as Munster. The attribution may derive from Ardpatrick coming within the sphere of influence of Armagh where Patrick was the patron saint.
Around the top of the hill on the northern side, outside the graveyard wall are a series of low earthern banks which may be the remains of this monastery – “an almost unique survival of the ancient agricultural endeavours of the monks”. The field patterns are clearly visible from the Kilmallock road in the sunlight.
These early monasteries were not laid out according to a standardised plan, but grew organically with simple huts for the monks clustered around a central church. Enclosing this was an earthern bank or stone wall, known as the vallum, which defined the area where the ecclesiastical rather than the secular law held sway. Consequently criminals or outlaws on the run, often sought sanctuary in these monasteries.
The Holy Well lies outside the present graveyard wall, and is possibly the oldest feature of the site. The worship of water was popular amongst the ancient Celts; according to local tradition Ardpatrick was a Druidical centre. With the coming of Patrick many of these pagan sites were converted to Christian use. Water from this well is said to cure lameness, rickets and rheumatism.
The present church ruin is medieval in date but probably stands on the site of a series of earlier churches which were built of wood ‘according to the Irish fashion’. The surrounding graveyard is still in use.
Important Irish monasteries were sometimes marked by a tall round stone-built tower. The round tower here is now reduced to a stump; it was struck by lightening during a storm in 1824. The base of the tower was excavated in the 19th century and parts of two bells were found.
Another important association of Ardpatrick is with the ancient roadway known as the Rian Bo Phadraig. The name derives from the legend of St. Patrick’s Cow; this supernatural beast made the roadway by dragging its horn across the countryside.
In ancient tale, Ardpatrick is called Tulach na Feinne, the Hill of Fianna, the Fianna being the famous band of mythological warriors whose leader was Fionn Mac Cumhaill.
The site is signposted (it says Early Christian Monastic Site) from outside the Greenwood Inn, Ardpatrick There is a trail leading up the hill (225m high) to the site. Carparking is available in Ardpatrick.
I didnt even realise what this was when I first visited it. I found the bit of folklore online and thought that is something unusual, a submerged souterain.
It is located just outside of the town of Kilfinnane and is signposted.
There is also a second well in the same field as it.
Sorry about the poor picture, next time Im passing Ill post a better one.
ballyhoura.com/attractheritageframe2.htm
Lady’s Well and Tobar Righ an Domhnaigh
Some holy wells have a very long tradition of being venerated, possibly evolving from the pre-Christian tradition of worshipping water sources as deities. Holy wells were usually associated with a particular saint and offered cures for a range of aliments. On the feast day of the saint a pattern was held. The ritual of obtaining a cure or favour involved making the rounds of the well, saying certain prayers and leaving a charm or offering at the well or tying a ribbon or rag onto an adjacent tree of overhanging bush. This site is unusual as there are two wells in close proximity. The tree covered well is known as Our Lady’s well which is still venerated.
Tobar Ri and Domhnaigh or the ‘King of Sunday’s Well” is a water logged souterrain. Souterrains are under ground chambers which were built in the early Christian period. They are thought to be places of refuge or food storage and are often associated with ring-forts (early Christian farmsteads). There are a number of man made earthworks in the field. The existence of the holy well, the soutterain and the earthworks in the field suggest there was a settlement here in the Early Christian period.
Situated 1 mile from Kilfinane. The well is accessible across a field which is signposted at the style.
Its funny this hill-fort is signposted from the road but when you get there, there isnt a path or anything. Ive since read that it is on private property and there is no access!
I stopped by a lane that leads to a farmyard which doesnt have a house attached to it.
It is only about 500m from the road.
The rath itself has great 360 views of the hills around it. The trench between the rings of the ring-fort are very deep and the middle part of the rath is raised up, probably to about 4-5 metres above the surrounding land which gives it a very commanding position.
What really interested me about the site was the reference in the folklore to it being a possible site of “Teamhair Luachra”.
Taken from
ballyhoura.com/attractheritageframe2.htm
Cathair Murthuile Ringfort
Ringforts were farmsteads built in the Early Christian period (c. 500-1000 AD). They were agricultural centres, but also had a strong focus on craft. This fort location, on a hilltop, is an unusual location for a ringfort. The scale of the enclosing elements, and its location would indicate that this was a high status fort which was likely to have been more than a residential complex and may have some association with Ardpatrick which is visible from here on a hill top to the south. It has been suggested that this is the site of the old ‘Teamhair Luachra’ referred to in early Irish literature.
The raised centre of the rath, with evidence of foundations etc
You can really see the depth of the trench in this rath
I didnt think such a lovely site could be located so close to Dublin.
However it appears that its vicinity to Dublin could also be its downfall with plans for a port here.
The bay really is lovely and my thinking would be that the mounds are located here due to the abundance of sea food that would have been obtainable here.
The 5 mounds are covered with crops this time of year so it is best to access via the shoreline if this is possible.