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The Four Stones of Gwytherin

Visited 25th May 2003: We approached from the direction of Maen Pebyll along an interesting little road that runs over the mountain. In the village there were teenagers playing what appeared to be hide and seek, and I was sorry to see that the pub was shut down.

When we arrived we went round the church the wrong way, so my first view of the Four Stones was from the south. My first thought was ‘look there’s an old stone marked boundary’, and I never quite managed to shake this idea off. The stones are very striking despite their medium stature. The Latin carved stone is a bonus, if you like that sort of thing (creative vandalism?). The proximity of the stones to the embankment that leads down from the churchyard down to the River Elwy is interesting, as is the short distance between the church itself and the stones. I wonder what the history of this place is. I think I need to do some reading.

The Four Stones Of Gwytherin were our last stop before Pizza Hut (I know it’s not very ethically minded, but there you go) then home.

Maen Pebyll

Visited 25th May 2003: This site got me more excited than Capel Garmon. What a great place! Everyone else stayed in the car and I pegged it off to take a close look at the stones. What remains appears to be a collapsed chamber, and the ploughed down remains of the barrow mound to the east of it. The views from up here are very dramatic, especially looking west towards the mountains. This must have been quite a place!

I didn’t have much time at Maen Pebyll because the light was fading and I’d set my heart on visiting the Gwytherin Stones before we set of home. Well worth a visit though, if you don’t mind slumbering megaliths.

Image of Maen Pebyll (Long Barrow) by Kammer

Maen Pebyll

Long Barrow

Taken 25th May 2003: From the east with the mound and chamber in the foreground, and the mountains of Gwynedd in the distance. The light was fading, so this photo is a bit bland I’m afraid.

Image credit: Simon Marshall

Miscellaneous

Hully Hill Monument
Artificial Mound

I’ve not visited this site, but a friend of mine has (I’m hoping to pinch some photos from her). According to CANMORE Huly Hill is,

Surrounded by a modern wall, it measures 100’ in diameter and 10 1/2’ in height, with its summit slightly hollowed. Wilson states that it was opened in 1830, and found to contain a “bronze spearhead, along with animal charcoal and small fragments of bones, but neither cist nor urns”.

There are three standing stones in the same field as the barrow which may be the remains of a stone circle or circles. A fourth outlying stone (NT12657262) could be also be associated with the group. None of the stones are marked on the Landranger.

Miscellaneous

Rudbaxton Rath
Hillfort

I’ve not visited this site, but the chap I’ve just spoken to at Pembrokeshire County Council has visited recently to check out the public footpath. Apparently you can get to the site, but I gather the Council plan to improve the path.

From a very superficial sweep of CARN it looks like this site was originally used during the Iron Age, then again as a defensive position during the Middle Ages. There is also a Holy Well here, but I have it on good authority that this may be in use as a fly tip!

Capel Garmon

Visited 25th May 2003: After a kiddies party near Conwy I dragged everyone off to see some sites. First stop was Capel Garmon, which I last visited 20 years ago with my parents!

The chamber is heavily reconstructed, or so it appeared to me. We were all a bit tired and irritable, so it was difficult to relax and enjoy the site. Not much ‘zing’ was found here. The surrounding landscape is fantastic though, with excellent views of the mountains. I’d quite like to come here again on my own, without fractious kiddies, and see whether there’s any ‘zing’ here to be had.

I had intended to recreate the 1983 photos with Lou, Will and Alfie in them, but my attempts were too crap to post. Another thing I stuffed up was forgetting to check the location of the Gorsedd before heading out to the site. As a result I totally failed to take a look.

PS. Broen – I suspect that the farmer knew exactly where this site was when he directed you elsewhere. I didn’t get the feeling that he’s keen on people visiting the site (crappy gates, mad sheep dogs etc.)

Image of Capel Garmon (Chambered Cairn) by Kammer

Capel Garmon

Chambered Cairn

Taken 25th May 2003: Looking towards the original entrance of the chamber, with William standing in the well at the end. Note the stick in the foreground that William wouldn’t stop chucking around!

Image credit: Simon Marshall
Image of Capel Garmon (Chambered Cairn) by Kammer

Capel Garmon

Chambered Cairn

Taken 25th May 2003: From the hill to the north west of the chamber. Lou is sat on the capstone feeding Alfie and William is loitering alongside her. The (alleged) Capel Garmon Gorsedd is in the background, to the right of the shot.

Image credit: Simon Marshall

Hindwell Stone

Visited 11th May 2003: This was the last site I visited on my way back from Oxford. I found it from memory, having seen it listed on CARN. Thought to be a standing stone, the Hindwell Stone stands 300 metres (west north west) of the Four Stones. Although it’s a lot smaller than the stones in it’s neighbouring site, the type of stone and shape is similar.

I got more excited about this little chap than I did at the Four Stones. The surrounding hills, and Old Radnor were easy to see, and there are no nearby houses (unlike the Fours Stones). The ploughed field had a slightly Zen quality, with the stone sat on a small island of uncultivated soil. I really enjoyed visiting this obscure little megalith!

The Four Stones

Visited 11th May 2003: The Radnor Four Stones were my penultimate stop off on the way home from Oxford. It was my first visit to the site, and I was travelling ‘sans map’. I overshot on the A44, turning off too far west. After asking directions from a friendly farmer I doubled back, and eventually ended up in the right place.

The four stones are enormous, but sat as they are in a big flat field, it all seemed a bit of an anticlimax when I got there. The stones are so squat and rounded that they could almost be sat on the surface rather than embedded in the ground (obviously this isn’t the case). They don’t seem to be orientated in any obvious way. I didn’t feel my eye being drawn to anything specific. I’m new to the ‘four poster’ thing, so perhaps it takes a while to tune into. After all that driving I was probably in the ‘wrong place’ for the Four Stones.

It goes without saying that this is a truly megalithic site, probably pivotal in a landscape of smaller sites, so it that respect ‘je ne regret rein’. The visit left me wondering what a four poster is doing in mid Wales!

Image of The Four Stones (Stone Circle) by Kammer

The Four Stones

Stone Circle

Taken 11th May 2003: Randomly discarded farm machinery and the stones (to the right). Viewed from the north (and ever so slightly to the west).

[This plogh thingy is obviously a semi-permenant feature. When I visited on 21st June the field had just be cut, and the farmer had left his lunch-box resting on it by accident.]

Image credit: Simon Marshall

Miscellaneous

Ffynnon Druidion Burial Chamber
Burial Chamber

Here’s the account of the site that accompanied the photo at the NMRW. I think the record belongs to the Royal Commission:

In a field on Ffynon Druidion Farm are the remains of a small cromlech. The capstone, 5 and a half feet in length, 3 and a half feet in breadth, and 1 foot thick, lies north-west to south-west; so far as an observation was possible, it appears to be supported by two stout pillars. The immediate surface for some yards around is strewn with rough stone. About 600 yards due south, and within site of the cromlech, is an erect stone [the Ffynnon Druidion standing stone]...

It’s not clear to me when the above was written. There were two dates on the paperwork, one relating to a visit to the site in 1920 and the other relating to a record made in 1872. The photo is most likely to related to the 1920 visit, so it seems likely that the site was still there in the early 20th Century. Hopefully it still is there.

Ffynnon Druidion Burial Chamber

Visited 18th April 2003: I looked for this site with just a Landranger map, and couldn’t find it. From the road I saw lots of stones that looked like they may have once been part of something, but it was all very inconclusive. More photogenic than these was a big pile of old cast iron baths.

Subsequently I’ve seen an old black and white photo of the site at the NMRW (sadly undated) showing the site to be a classic dolmen. What I can’t be sure of is whether the site still exists, but from the write up I suspect it does, and I was just looking in the wrong place.

Folklore

Coitan Arthur

My post-visit research at the NMRW came up with the following about this site’s demise in 1844:

The Rev. T.G. Mortimore remonstrated with the destroyer [of the stone], and with the view of inducing him to desist reminded him of the old saying that ill-luck befell those who destroyed the Druid’s altars. Some years afterwards the vandal admitted that the house he had built of the stones had not brought him good luck!

At least we got some good folklore out of this site.

Miscellaneous

Coitan Arthur

Some superficial research at the NMRW clarified the history of this site, and made me feel a lot better about not finding it. According to the Royal Commission’s records...

This stone, known as Coitan Arthur, Arthur’s Quoit – probably the capstone or supporter of a demolished cromlech – stood in the corner of a field appurtenant to the farm of Trellwyn Ucha. It was destroyed in the year 1844.

I’d like to thank Phil for adding every site with the word ‘Arthur’ in it that he could find to the Modern Antiquarian Web site, including this one which hasn’t existed for 159 years!

Image of Coitan Arthur by Kammer

Coitan Arthur

Taken 20th April 2003: I know what you’re thinking! This looks like an empty field. Well, you’re right, it is.

Image credit: Simon Marshall

Coitan Arthur

Visited 20th April: I visited this site in the hope of finding something of the burial chamber that once stood here. Lou dozed in the car while I ran around like a loony with my GPS. I found nothing but sheep in the field where the tomb supposedly stood. There was a slight bump in the field, but nothing that I could conclusively identify. Perhaps for someone with a bit more time and patience there might be clues to find here, but in the end I gave up.

Image of The Stone River (Natural Rock Feature) by Kammer

The Stone River

Natural Rock Feature

Taken 19th April 2003: From near the Rhos Fach Standing Stones looking across Cors Tewgwll towards the Preseli range.

I’ve coloured the Stone River to make it slightly more obvious. To the right of the shot is the edge of Carn Meini and the the left is Carn Arthur. The beginning of the Stone River isn’t visible. All the black marks are the result of scrub fires.

Image credit: Simon Marshall

The Stone River

Visited 15th April 2003: This is the strangest natural feature I’ve seen in a while. It’s a long narow curving band of scattered rocks, stretching from the Carn Menyn Chambered Cairn down into the valley. From a distance it looks river like (and a bit alien) winding it’s way down from the Preseli ridge. I pinched the name ‘Stone River’ from the book Prehistoric Preseli by N.P. Figgis.

I’m usually a bit sceptical about the connection between ‘natural’ sites and artificial prehistoric sites, but this one left me relatively certain that it was of significance to the people who erected the Preseli sites. The fact that the Carn Menyn Cairn was built directly at the head of this feature makes this likely. From Bedd Arthur the river can be seen stretching away from majesty of Carn Meini, down towards the flat fertile land where Gors Fawr is sited. The river is also very easy to see from below (e.g. from the Rhos Fach Standing Stones), like an arrow pointing to Carn Meini.

There’s another photo of the Stone River, taken from Bedd Arthur, under the Carn Menyn Chambered Cairn section, as well as some shots of the cairn showing the beginning of the river.

This feature is strangely un-sung!

Tinkinswood

Visited 28th April 2003: After St. Lythans we headed for Tinkinswood, and weren’t disappointed. It was a sunny evening, and the tomb looked great in the contrasting light and shadow. William was very happy playing here, because the chamber is so large. He kept running up to the edge of the capstone, which scared us silly as it’s a long drop to the ground in places. The cists behind the chamber were interesting, as was the beautiful dry stone walling on the east side of the site. The nearby power cables and pylon didn’t bother me too much, certainly not in comparison to the uncomfortable feeling I got at the Countless Stones. What a great place!

Image of Tinkinswood (Burial Chamber) by Kammer

Tinkinswood

Burial Chamber

Taken 28th April 2003: From the south, giving a good indication of how the electricity pylon encroaches on the site (sorry, this is very similar to Jane’s photo).

Image credit: Simon Marshall
Image of Tinkinswood (Burial Chamber) by Kammer

Tinkinswood

Burial Chamber

Taken 28th April 2003: Stone cists in the mound to the west of the main chamber. I believe that one has been excavated, and one hasn’t (but don’t quote me on that!).

Image credit: Simon Marshall

St. Lythans

Visited 28th April 2003: This was one hell of a detour. We’d spent the weekend in the south east of England, and were supposed to be going home to mid-west Wales. Somehow I persuaded Louise that we should pop in and see St. Lythans and Tinkinswood on the way (adding about two hours to the journey). Armed with a crumby road atlas we eventually found our way to St. Lythans, and after a change of footwear and a stretch, we marched up the field to the chamber.

What a great site this is. From a distance the two largest uprights look flat like walls, meeting the capstone neatly. On closer inspection it’s clear that all the stones are peppered with little round holes, presumably caused by weathering. There’s a hole right through the smallest of the uprights, which William wanted to stick his hand through (I had to hold him up). The capstone is enormous, and I must admit (like Mr. Cope) I couldn’t resist a quick look at the top of it. The top of the stone is deeply rutted with valleys and holes, full of water. I felt no mystical bad vibes while I was perching up there (I think I’m numbed to that sort of thing) but I did feel a bit irresponsible, so I hopped down quick smart. The chamber is extremely photogenic, fitting nicely into the dolmen stereotype.

Miscellaneous

Castell Pen yr Allt
Hillfort

Castell Pen-yr-Allt is the site of a Medieval castle, but there’s a strong possibility that the hill was also used during the Iron Age as a fort. I’ve not visited the it, so I’ve no idea what’s visible on the ground.

Yesterday I had a look through the Cadw records for Castell Pen-yr-Allt, held at the National Monuments Record of Wales. In the paperwork I looked at there was no reference to an Iron Age settlement on the site of the castle. It looks like Cadw have yet to be pursuaded of a prehistoric connection.

That’s not to say that there wasn’t a prehistoric settlement though. My research was incredibly rushed and superficial (I visited during my lunch hour) so there’s plenty of other material to be sifted through. Just a quick look at the catalogue shows that Cambria Archaeology and the RCAHMW both associate the site with the Iron Age.

Miscellaneous

Maen Serth
Standing Stone / Menhir

I’ve now found out some more about Maen Serth. The Cadw records, indicate that it’s not prehistoric, but it remains listed on the National Monument Record as a Bronze Age standing stone.

Apparently the stone has a cross carved on the east south east side of it, but this is now practically indiscernible. There’s a large lump of rock missing from the top of the stone, and it’s probable that most of the carving was lost when this came away. The top of the stone was missing when photographed in 1911, but what remains of the cross has deteriorated since then.

In 1933 the stone was leaning at 45 degrees, but was subsequently set straight in concrete (there’s no indication of who did this). The stone is 8 feet tall (that’s nearly two and a half metres).

Nant Maesnant Fach

Visited 16th March 2003: A bit more impressive than Nant-y-Fedwen, this round cairn is really obvious from the road. It’s quite large for the area, given it’s altitude and the relative fertility of the surrounding land (I mean relative to the mountain peaks rather than the lowlands).

This cairn would once have shared the valley with a number of other sites, some of which (like the Aber Camddwr Ring Cairn) were destroyed with the creation of the Nant-y-Moch Reservoir. The peaks of all the surrounding mountains still have Bronze Age cairns on them, and there are still a number of sites along the valley. This area must have been humming with ritual significance a few thousand years ago!