This thread has had people disagreeing in a good way, don't start been a funny bugger now please, Read up a bit higher and you'll see Nigel said "I just thought I'd point out that before I'm accused of being too old and tweedy and closed minded for this forum but so, maybe, is it's founder!", He brought age up first not me [so please say the same to him], and people commenting on things without reading the whole thread is a bit annoying as well, if it's within the rules i'll comment on what i like, i'm the sort of person that if i'm told not to do something, i'll just do it all the more, you were wrong anyway, it makes me laugh that when people moan they're normally wrong, Isn't life great?