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I'm reading with total dismay about the aledged treatment of the Taliban and Al Q'eda prisoners at the hands of the US. I mean I expect little else from a country that has the dealth penalty and thinks that it is a just punishment, but I still don't see how that Rumsfeld wanker can justify it by saying they are not prisoners of war , but illegal combatants or some such similar shit term.

Does anyone know of a good website that goes into detail of these allegations so that I can look at it in a decent perspective?

not sure where you picked this up from but know amnesty have been protesting about the treatment of afghan prisoners. Can't get on to the amnesty site at present to see what's there.

www.amnesty.org

what do you expect from the US ... though disappointing that they continue to live down to my expectations

I'm afraid I don't have a web site only a question!
apart from being disgusted by what is going on with respect to housing prisoners like dogs in a kennels what I don't understand and you may be able to explain is why cuba? why do america have a big base there and why does castro allow it when there are all these sanctions etc I find it all very odd but i suppose america have bigger guns!
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caroline

Blair has removed his tongue from Uncle Sam's anus long enough to finally protest that the prisoners should be held in accordance with the Geneva convention irrespective of whether they are a "regular army" or not.

I take the contrary view on this. Those prisoners are members of an organisation which kills civilians because they pay taxes to the US government. They've also tried to develop weapons of mass destruction - nuclear, biological, chemical. It isn't over yet. I think they ought to isolate these prisoners and subject them to interrogation procedures - i.e sensory deprivation, scopolamine / sodium amytal - and find out what further plots against innocent civilians they harbour. Democracy has to fight dirty to survive sometimes.

apparently the prisoners beards are been shaved off for hygiene reasons. If all bodily hair was being shaved off it might not seem so sinister but i don't think it is. it is a little too remanisant of treatment of the jews, and totally disrepectful of the prisoners religon. I know this is a trivial point in some respects but i find it quite disturbing.
caroline

Sorry I don't. But it was to be expected. No-one seriously believes the US in on a 'different war'. I knew this war would be 'just another US war' (only in this case they were sort of allowed to bomb other people out of extinction due to the gravity of the incident). There is nothing that changes the way war was waged. It is still a technological monster destroying yet another backward faraway country for pride reasons, etc without actually solving ANYTHING at all. Al Qaeda may be done with but its main bosses are still around. No-one seriously thought they would ever be caught. Not even the dumbest person who the US has shown the world is perfectly capable of voting into office, and right now, supporting after achieving so much popularity.

Even as we speak, double the number of people as before are turning into terrorists after seeing YET ANOTHER equal demonstration of vile actions without reason by the US. The case continues and the US is sort of hitting and then shouting 'come on, hit again if you dare!'. This attitude reminds me of the dumbest kids at school who ended up not hurting anyone except themselves.

Needless to say, CNN and other American media is as pathetic as the propaganda by the Russian communists during the 70s. Though the population is kept happy with lots of entertainment, if you dig deeper, the US is just another totalitarian state, in a slightly different way (i.e. technological). And don't come with the silly 'so why don't you fuck off to a totalitarian state and really see how they live?' (cos I've done that) or 'you wouldn't be allowed to use the internet and blah blah blah' (cos that just doesn't explain why websites are CIA-purged or shut down)

I wonder if there would by 200 Afghans at Guantanamo Bay if Bin Laden had been captured/annihilated

This whole issue has so riled me. I tried to write a letter to Tony Blair, but was rendered utterly incapable of articulating exactly how I felt (a rare moment of speechlessness!). Last night I finally managed to sum it up while watching the news:

Donald Rumsfeld - hes an arrogant shit isn't he?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1778000/1778210.stm

The US are putting the transfer of prisoners to Cuba so that facilities can be improved.

I just wondered if anyone knows what the american media and also people are saying about all this.
carolinex