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Joe Chip Jan 17, 2002 15:08:12
Replying to FourWinds

I take the contrary view on this. Those prisoners are members of an organisation which kills civilians because they pay taxes to the US government. They've also tried to develop weapons of mass destruction - nuclear, biological, chemical. It isn't over yet. I think they ought to isolate these prisoners and subject them to interrogation procedures - i.e sensory deprivation, scopolamine / sodium amytal - and find out what further plots against innocent civilians they harbour. Democracy has to fight dirty to survive sometimes.

I IronMan
IronMan Jan 17, 2002 16:37:17
Replying to Joe Chip

democracy?

R RiotGibbon
RiotGibbon Jan 17, 2002 16:43:06
Replying to Joe Chip

hmmm, treat people badly enough, and they'll tell you anything ...

and just so I got this right ... "we're" going to treat "them" badly (to put it mildly), because "we" think "they" have treated "us" badly ...

- perhaps I'm being naive, but anybody accusing the US of being hypocritical about human rights when it suits them has a bit of point. For months now, the US has been banging on about Defeating Evil, but keeping people (and yes, that's exactly what they, like it or not) in those sort of conditions is pretty close to Evil to me.

what are we seeking to protect, if this is how we behave? Surely the whole point of the "Civilisation" that was under attack, is that everyone is treated humanely, and not punished before being convicted.

hmm

RG

F FourWinds
FourWinds Jan 17, 2002 17:47:33
Replying to Joe Chip

OK ... now I've calmed down a little. The US were the FIRST to develop 'weapons of mass destruction'. The US are the ONLY country to use 'weapons of mass destruction'. The US were the FIRST to take lives with 'weapons of mass destruction' even when it wasn't necessary to end the war, but one big open air laboratory. The US committed the two single largest terrorist acts in history.

No one, and I mean NO ONE should be treated in a way different to how you would expect to be treated. That is what *civilisation* is about, not having bigger and better guns. In fact some would say that having bigger and better guns is a sign of being less civilised, especially if you use them to do anything other than defend your person (and that's a contencious issue).

The Geneva convention was drawn up to protect people when captured. It was ratified by the US and so they should stick to it. Do you remember Dubya saying, "This is the first war of the 21st century" ?

You see, when it suited him he used the word WAR, now they are not prisoners of war. This means the US was *NOT* at war with the Taleban and so their (the US) actions were terrorism .. .plain and simple.