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After a while you will agree with me that it leads nowhere. This is the eternal discussion between IE vs non-IE / Basque which has raged on in Iberian circles for centuries. It is similar to the Celtic debate, but this one is even worse as it is spread out over such a vast territory (ie all of Europe).

But it is still fun to see the word 'celtic' overused in Galician brochures (or Irish and welsh brochures for that matter). People who see links like the Galician bagpipes, the wet and green landscape or large numbers of Brig- placenames as evidence of a Celtic uber-nation get too carried away, especially when you think that Celtic *culture* was almost as strong almost everywhere in Iberia, France or Germany, just faded away faster later on.

I have seen this debate for decades and it definitely arises passions and never leads anywhere. But it is great fun sometimes, isn't it?

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Posted by gorseddphungus
12th March 2006ce
15:09

(Mr Hamhead, Mar 10, 2006, 09:17)

Re: National Geographic and Celts (PeterH, Mar 10, 2006, 10:06)
Re: National Geographic and Celts (fitzcoraldo, Mar 10, 2006, 10:50)
- Re: National Geographic and Celts (Mr Hamhead, Mar 10, 2006, 13:24)
  - Re: National Geographic and Celts (Wild Wooder, Mar 10, 2006, 15:03)
    - Re: National Geographic and Celts (PeterH, Mar 10, 2006, 16:18)
    - Re: National Geographic and Celts (Mr Hamhead, Mar 10, 2006, 18:23)
Gallaecia (gorseddphungus, Mar 10, 2006, 19:18)
- Re: Gallaecia (Hob, Mar 11, 2006, 00:18)
  - Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 11, 2006, 09:40)
    - Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 11, 2006, 10:03)
      - Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 11, 2006, 15:22)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 11, 2006, 16:32)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (tiompan, Mar 11, 2006, 16:51)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (tiompan, Mar 11, 2006, 16:58)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 11, 2006, 17:39)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (tiompan, Mar 11, 2006, 17:44)
        Rock art (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:38)
        Re: Rock art (tiompan, Mar 12, 2006, 10:10)
        we are all 'basque' (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 14:58)
        Baku (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 15:00)
        Re: Baku (tiompan, Mar 12, 2006, 15:20)
        Re: Baku (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 15:37)
        Re: Baku (fitzcoraldo, Mar 13, 2006, 12:58)
        Re: Baku (PeterH, Mar 13, 2006, 17:57)
        Odin / Dona (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 19:20)
        Re: Odin / Dona (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 19:41)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 20:00)
        Re: Odin / Dona (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 20:21)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 20:33)
        Re: Odin / Dona (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 21:59)
        West (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 22:07)
        Re: West (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 22:25)
        Too OLD (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 23:17)
        Re: Too OLD (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 23:19)
        Re: Too OLD (FourWinds, Mar 16, 2006, 07:27)
        America and the Irish (gorseddphungus, Mar 16, 2006, 18:41)
        Re: America and the Irish (FourWinds, Mar 16, 2006, 19:34)
        Re: America and the Irish (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 20:00)
        Re: America and the Irish (PeterH, Mar 17, 2006, 21:07)
        Ocean navigation (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 22:21)
        Re: Ocean navigation (PeterH, Mar 17, 2006, 22:47)
        daniken (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 22:48)
        Re: daniken (PeterH, Mar 17, 2006, 22:54)
        Categories (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 23:34)
        Time (OT) (Hob, Mar 17, 2006, 22:55)
        Time=Space (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 23:15)
        Re: Time=Space (Hob, Mar 17, 2006, 23:34)
        Two way traffic (PeterH, Mar 16, 2006, 20:07)
        Re: Two way traffic (FourWinds, Mar 16, 2006, 21:18)
        Stone Age Columbus thread (Hob, Mar 16, 2006, 22:02)
        Re: Stone Age Columbus thread (FourWinds, Mar 16, 2006, 22:29)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 22:16)
        Re: Odin / Dona (Littlestone, Mar 15, 2006, 22:52)
        Ainu Japan (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 23:38)
        Re: Ainu Japan (Littlestone, Mar 16, 2006, 00:33)
        Japan questions (gorseddphungus, Mar 16, 2006, 18:27)
        Japan questions II (gorseddphungus, Mar 16, 2006, 18:28)
        Re: Japan questions (Littlestone, Mar 16, 2006, 19:17)
        Re: Japan questions (Littlestone, Mar 16, 2006, 21:31)
        Re: Japan questions (fitzcoraldo, Mar 17, 2006, 00:50)
        Re: Japan questions (FourWinds, Mar 17, 2006, 01:00)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (cropredy, Mar 17, 2006, 09:41)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (nigelswift, Mar 17, 2006, 10:15)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (moss, Mar 17, 2006, 10:19)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (cropredy, Mar 17, 2006, 10:47)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (nigelswift, Mar 17, 2006, 11:03)
        Re:forum sceptimosium (PeterH, Mar 17, 2006, 18:22)
        Re: Japan questions (Littlestone, Mar 17, 2006, 10:54)
        More Questions (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 19:36)
        Temple (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 19:49)
        Re: Temple (cropredy, Mar 17, 2006, 21:58)
        Temple (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 22:12)
        Re: More Questions (Littlestone, Mar 17, 2006, 20:56)
        Re: More Questions (PeterH, Mar 17, 2006, 21:13)
        The Megalithic Far East (Littlestone, Mar 17, 2006, 21:49)
        More Answers (gorseddphungus, Mar 17, 2006, 22:02)
        Made in Japan (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 23:44)
        China (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 23:50)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 22:09)
        Re: Odin / Dona (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 22:30)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 22:40)
        Re: Odin / Dona (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 20:25)
        Re: we are all 'basque' (tiompan, Mar 12, 2006, 15:35)
        Galloway (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 15:50)
        Re: Galloway (tiompan, Mar 12, 2006, 16:49)
        Hoskin (gorseddphungus, Mar 13, 2006, 00:19)
        Re: Galloway (FourWinds, Mar 13, 2006, 00:38)
        Hoskin (gorseddphungus, Mar 13, 2006, 11:24)
        Re: Hoskin (FourWinds, Mar 13, 2006, 13:36)
        Orientations and other patterns (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 19:04)
        Re: Orientations and other patterns (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 19:23)
        West (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 19:33)
        Re: West (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 19:36)
        Re: West (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 19:37)
        Re: West (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 20:24)
        Re: Orientations and other patterns (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 19:33)
        Carrowmore (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 19:36)
        Re: Carrowmore (FourWinds, Mar 15, 2006, 21:25)
        Re: we are all 'basque' (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 18:57)
        Re: we are all 'basque' (gorseddphungus, Mar 13, 2006, 00:05)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 11, 2006, 17:10)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (tiompan, Mar 11, 2006, 17:28)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 11, 2006, 17:37)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 11, 2006, 17:39)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 11, 2006, 17:40)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:29)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 10:58)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (Mr Hamhead, Mar 12, 2006, 11:29)
        I have always been here before (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 15:09)
        Re: I have always been here before (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 19:13)
        Re: I have always been here before (gorseddphungus, Mar 13, 2006, 00:03)
        Kelts and Basques (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:10)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (Littlestone, Mar 11, 2006, 17:54)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 11, 2006, 18:15)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:20)
        Cup and rings (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:49)
        Re: Cup and rings (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 11:04)
      - Re: Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:03)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (FourWinds, Mar 12, 2006, 09:04)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:11)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 09:18)
        Re: Comparative archaeology (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 11:06)
        mythography (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 15:37)
        Re: mythography (PeterH, Mar 12, 2006, 19:25)
        Communication problems (gorseddphungus, Mar 12, 2006, 23:52)
        Re: Communication problems (PeterH, Mar 13, 2006, 08:21)
        Re: Communication problems (PeterH, Mar 13, 2006, 08:39)
        Tor (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 22:13)
        Re: Tor (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 22:49)
        Re: Tor (FourWinds, Mar 17, 2006, 01:25)
        Re: Tor (FourWinds, Mar 17, 2006, 01:32)
        kelt and kraut (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 20:11)
        Re: kelt and kraut (PeterH, Mar 15, 2006, 20:42)
        Re: kelt and kraut (gorseddphungus, Mar 15, 2006, 21:37)
Re: National Geographic and Celts (The Eternal, Mar 12, 2006, 01:08)
- Re: National Geographic and Celts (Mr Hamhead, Mar 12, 2006, 11:34)

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