Jesus I despise Brexit.

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grufty jim Feb 20, 2019 13:11:49
Replying to nigelswift

nigelswift wrote:
Repeating lies in all innocence (which I've done thousands of times in my life) is not being a liar. Will the Hon Member please withdraw the unparliamentary phrase. ;)
Really? Anyone at all fancy sticking to the facts?

I didn't call him a liar. I accused him of exactly what you just said; "repeating lies".

I also cautioned in my original post, that if someone repeats lies about a contentious issue on a public forum; an issue about which lots of people ARE lying, and we know this; then don't be surprised if people DO think you're lying. It's not an unreasonable thought in the context.

But I don't know that he is; and so never said he was. I simply stated that he is repeating damaging lies without bothering to fact check. And on issues like this (or Climate Change or anything else really important) that's not a million miles away from actual lying in my view.

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grufty jim Feb 20, 2019 13:17:05
Replying to grufty jim

And I'm sorry if this comes across as prickly. But another friend of mine just got told today that his contract will not be renewed because of "uncertainty about the future status of Northern Ireland".

He just had his second kid and is considering emigrating.

So I'm watching as a bunch of rich fucking liars in the UK rip apart MY country, and watching as 52% of the UK population goes along with this bullshit for reasons that look mostly like xenophobia to me.

I have a friend in London from the Balkans who is leaving the UK (and she had her entire life there) because of this bullshit and the open racism she's increasingly dealing with since the referendum (lots of "Why haven't you gone home yet?" and "I thought we got rid of you lot").

So am I angry? I'm fucking livid. And sorry if that leaks into my posts sometimes.