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Amil04 wrote:
..to clarify, it’s called being wrong..not ‘pushing an outright lie to further position.’ It was a way of bringing the diesel issue into the conversation. I don’t think any friend would intentionally lie but ..ar..forget it.
Sorry, but that's just horseshit.

Where did "diesel only" plant come from. Someone said that phrase and it was a LIE when they said it. There's no possible way of somehow "mixing up a plant that's 6% diesel with one that's diesel-only".

Explain to me how that "mistake" was made please. Because otherwise it's a lie. And I'm fucking tired of tip-toeing around liars on important political and ecological issues. if you post something to a public forum, have the decency to check it's true.

If you can't be arsed to do that; then don't get miffed if people think you're lying.

EDIT: *Especially* on subjects where LOTS of people clearly ARE lying in public.

PS to the above...

As it happens, I know exactly where this lie started (or at least one version of it). Some blogger on the auto-industry posted a misleading comment that hard-brexiteer "journalist" Julia Hartley-Brewer tweeted a lie about. She didn't even stick to the original blogger's misleading comment; she took it even further and just made shit up. Now people are repeating her lie without checking. Given that she has a track-record of lying about Brexit; I don't have any problem suggesting those repeating her lies are doing just that... repeating lies.