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Jesus I despise Brexit.

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tjj Feb 19, 2019 20:29:00

Replying to nigelswift

nigelswift wrote:

Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. It's just that in interviews people who voted Remain are saying Brexit is a factor and those who voted Brexit are saying it isn't - so they're compounding their mistake by lying about it.

For the town to be devasted yet still have people walking about pretending it's not partly their fault must be a bitter pill for it to swallow.

I know I should walk away now because I really don't want to argue with you Nigel but I'm going to defend Swindon. If as you said earlier 55% voted to Leave it means 45% voted to Remain - and that's not counting the politically disinterested who didn't vote at all. You seem to be implying that all the Honda workers voted Leave which I'm sure wasn't the case.
I have been listening to all the news commentary today (on and off) and it generally conceded although the uncertainty about a 'no deal' Brexit hasn't helped, the Japanese Honda CEO said this morning it was about global trends; moving to electric cars; and manufacturing where the largest markets are i.e. USA, China, and Japan - not Europe. Apparently Honda never really took off in Europe.
Please don't write the people of Swindon off by suggesting they deserve what they got. Quite a substantial percentage of Swindon's working population are EU citizens who would not have been allowed to vote in the referendum.

Now could someone, somewhere please declare peace and stop this awful blame game - its tearing the country apart.

nigelswift Feb 20, 2019 05:45:16

Replying to tjj

Sorry June I really think you are criticising what isn't there. Please see what I actually said.

As for the cause of the disaster, Honda (and all Swindon's high tech firms) advised their employees to vote Remain because they thought Brexit would be bad for them (little dreaming it might be even worse than a soft Brexit) so I don't buy the Government inspired message that Brexit had nothing to do with it. Not for one minute.

Of course I know it's terrible for the town and that a lot of people voted remain so you have no need to defend them against a perceived but non-existent criticism. I used to live near Longbridge, how could I not know how the town is feeling?

But I reserve the right to resent specifically those who voted Brexit all over UK in defiance of advice from their employers and who have brought about an ongoing calamity. My son voted Remain and will lose his job, both he and all the remain voters in Swindon deserves more sympathy than those who "wanted to take back control" like it said on a bus.

If there's any silver lining it's that Swindon is on the M4 corridor and very popular with employers so it will recover in the end. I doubt the same can be said of the North East or South Wales.

Amil04 Feb 20, 2019 09:02:52

Replying to tjj

..a friend of mine told me it was more to do with the fact it was a diesel only plant. Diesel’s gonna be gone by 2022? I’ll have to check this..I can’t see electric’s going to be any better. Nobody questions why people need to drive around so much. Just where is all the traffic going and why? Freight on Rail!