Re: Jesus I despise Brexit. | Forum — The Modern Antiquarian

grufty jim Nov 25, 2018 19:14:27

Replying to Captain Starlet

Captain Starlet wrote:

We're fucked...

Maybe. But I don't think so.

I still don't know the mechanism by which it will happen, but I increasingly feel brexit won't actually happen. The Gibraltar issue is yet another nail in the coffin of this absurd act of national humiliation and self-harm.

I think there's now a solid majority in the UK who understand that a "no deal" brexit would be genuinely catastrophic, and that the only deals acceptable to Europe are substantially worse for the UK than the position it enjoys right now within the EU. The deal on offer is not as bad as "no deal", true, but it's still pretty dreadful compared to the current situation.

How this realisation manifests as concrete action to stop brexit? No idea whatsoever. But you guys now have 4 months to work it out.

nigelswift Nov 25, 2018 20:01:20

Replying to grufty jim

I wish I was confident that the apparent 56% remainers would win a second ref but I'm not. Simplistic punchlines and dog whistling will probably win and we've all seen May doing both today. No more immigrants, no more immigrants and the British just want to get on with it .... no they don't you bloody barefaced liar, not the thinking ones.

nigelswift Nov 25, 2018 20:02:42

Replying to grufty jim

Captain Starlet Nov 25, 2018 20:44:41

Replying to grufty jim

I really want that to happen, unfortunately we've got a PM who seems to either believe she's doing a good job or she's doing this on purpose, or maybe a mix of the two.

Sadly here in Wales we've got the worst attempt of a govt I've ever witnessed, the govt who actually gave powers back to westminster! Who the hell does that!! So although the uk may not be fucked, Wales certainly is if we leave the EU.

I'm interested in that Banks case, I think that's the one to keep an eye open for over the next month or so.

Old Michael Barnier's done quite well out of it though