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I guess you don't understand what technology does . . . efficiency . . . productivity.

Can you imagine how many trees we'd have to kill to have this discussion via paper instead of on the internet?

As for oil, in 1975 the environmental movement insisted we'd run out before the year 2000 . . . yet magically here we are in 2003 with plenty of oil, in fact there are more known reserves today than there were in 1975!

And you may have noticed hybrid cars with twice the efficiency of old fashioned internal combustion engines are already on the road . . . just wait til fuel cell technology becomes economically feasible. The only waste product produced: water!

"Oil" is going to go the way of the horse and buggy. (And the effect will be devastating on countries where oil is the entire basis of the economy -- and you think the Mideast is a mess today!)

And by the way energy is not a finite resource -- the sun pumps jillions of killowatts down to earth every day. Solar power won't run out until the sun explodes a few million years from now.

You need electricity to produce the fuel to run fuel cells (hydrogen and oxygen) . . . that electrity can come from solar power . . . then why do you need oil? We'll stop needing the stuff for energy long before we run out.

Fuel cells are not an energy producer but a storage device. As you say you need the sun (or whatever) to charge them. They are not efficient.

Even the oil companies are admitting to low reserves now in industry magazines and papers.

The short term problem is not oil supply, but *cheap* oil. Then supply probelms kick in at a later date.

There is not enough investment in renewable energy. One of the most promising schemes in the UK (up north somewhere) was shut last year because the gov't wouldn't give them £10m, but could spend hundreds of millions on a war for oil. Go figure.

How do you smelt metals etc. to make new wind-turbines when all the fossil fuel has gone?

Believe me, by assuming I don't know what technology does, you are making a grave mistake. It's because I DO, and having studied sustainable/renewable energy for a decade or more, I realise the deficit. We use prime rainforest hardwoods to shore up cement mouldings. It doesn't take a technological breakthrough to realise that capitalism does what it can because it can, and the 'environmental' debate is so late in the day because we have our noses to the wheel.

"We'll stop needing the stuff for energy long before we run out." exactly which planet is it on that you reside?
http://www.cloud23.net/index.cfm?action=blog.61

"I also have a lot of faith in technology to make things like
fuel cells cost-effective....Just think what technology has done for the world in the last 100 years..."

cuz you're thinking that we actually have another 100 years to figure this out?

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