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dhajjieboy May 23, 2017 13:10:31
Replying to nigelswift

Nigel...as you are ageing, you are becoming much less adept at cheap point scoring and un-clever twisting of words...semantics old boy.
You still seem to want to re-direct this particular issue into something about Trump for some inscrutable reason.
As Mr. Torino has pointed out there are many objects d' art with established legacies here and abroad with cultural value and worth that have unfortunately involved the use of ivory...
Do you suggest we pile it all into a conflagration as they do with confiscated tusks in Africa?
That's gonna involve a shitload of pianos {some of which Beethoven himself played on and still exist}{for starters...}.
Whatever else you say....it's the continuing ASIAN demand for ivory that will see off the last elephant.{and Rhinos too}
Not anything going on in the U.K.
Try taking THAT on.

N nigelswift
nigelswift May 23, 2017 13:40:19
Replying to dhajjieboy

dhajjieboy wrote:
Nigel...as you are ageing,
You unsophisticated knob.

T thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat May 23, 2017 17:36:17
Replying to dhajjieboy

You are funny. You know Toni didn't say that.

You are the only person here who is suggesting a conflagration of antique ivory. The 2015 Tory manifesto committed to pressing for "a total ban on ivory sales". So no-one is coming to smash your Beethoven piano, but you wouldn't be able to sell it - "ivory sales" not ivory ownership. The point being quite obviously that it's market value that drives the ongoing slaughter.

Like everyone else, you can check and see that the same commitment is not in the 2017 Tory manifesto.

Like everyone else, you can check the fact that the previous UK government did not deliver on implementing its pledge, so comments about it already being implemented, copied here by Sanctuary from elsewhere, are clearly incorrect.

But you know all that, you're just throwing stuff in to have an argument for the sake it.