The Future of the Labour Party

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Rhiannon R
Rhiannon Aug 5, 2016 12:07:22
Replying to jb lamptoast-morsley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls1HzPZs_eY

I have watched this and I honestly tried to keep as open minded as possible, but I still couldn't help seeing Smith as a suit who was saying 'it's time to be united, it's terrible we're not' - when he's one of the ones causing the disuniity! and that he seemed better at dodging the actual questions than Corbyn and just spouting the soundbites rather than talking about the root causes of things.

Also the clapping is so weird, you hear lots of clapping but a lot of hte time you can't see many people clapping! (I think they must have paid people to whoop at the back, the people you can see look very dour).

Smith's insistence that you need nuclear weapons to try and pursuade other countries to give up theirs seemed quite bizarre to me.

He keeps going on about 'we need to be in government' but I still don't understand why he thinks he's more able to win a bloody election than the person he disagrees with.

C Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet Aug 5, 2016 12:14:41
Replying to Rhiannon

I find it uncanny that as he agrees so much with Corbyn that he wants to take his job. After all he's been stealing his policies since he decided to challenge, if Corbyn goes he'll have nothing to convince voters with.

According to a Labour insider a few MP's are asking Smith to stand down from the leadership challenge after last night's complete disaster.

The bit "I'm not having that" after being challenged on resigning was just pathetic. If he can't remain calm and dignified against a pensioner what chance will he have against the Tories and other opposition, not to mention foreign affairs!

He totally got put in his place last night and shown as a rank amateur. I hope today he's thinking about doing the decent thing.

T thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat Aug 5, 2016 20:25:26
Replying to Rhiannon

Rhiannon wrote:
[Owen Smith] keeps going on about 'we need to be in government' but I still don't understand why he thinks he's more able to win a bloody election than the person he disagrees with.
The problem with that statement from Smith is that it almost inevitable finishes with the unspoken "... at any cost". There's certainly more than a hint there that winning power is more important than the principles you might sacrifice to get there.

I would rather we had an effective socialist/progressive opposition trying to move the political consensus back towards the left than an "in government" centre/right watered-down Labour administration which carries on with Thatcher's programme as Blair did.