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Ha, you picked the part that makes me sound like a Thatcher supporter and then whitewashed the fact that under left-wing control we didn't know when the lights would next go out. My family were in manufacturing back then and I'm from old Mining family. But, I remember those Marxist c##ts with venom and vitriol. The swing to the Right, and to Thatcher was almost guaranteed. By them, and by them alone. You cannot have militants ruining businesses and trying to play their own political games to the detriment of the Govt and population of the day without something going 'bang'. Those TU's, often beloved of the left, brought Thatcher into power more surely than the voters who elected and then re-elected her.

I enjoy your posts, and missed them btw, unlike the majority of mindless, 'right-on' drivel oft spouted on here.

On your final point though, we are agreed. In many cases I support the creation of part-subsidised employment rather than Merrick's old 'give em dole if they'd rather that' stance. I want people to have a reason to partake in society, to pay tax and NI and feel some sense of self worth with ensuing self respect. Resultant crime rates should fall, urban areas should be safer and cleaner and it should have a +ve affect on society as a whole.

You're no Labour supporter? I'd love to hear more.

I'm headed the UKIP path, myself. Yeah, yeah, the racist Europhobes, if you believe the hype. Phoney Tony & Gordie Clown nailed the UK to the mast and Dangerous Dave set the remains on fire. The only way out is to ditch the burden of the EU.


On another note and just reflecting: It's funny just how few of Thatchers policies were overturned by Labour afterwards.

jshell wrote:
On another note and just reflecting: It's funny just how few of Thatchers policies were overturned by Labour afterwards.
In a lot of cases it was impossible to do so, as in reopening mines and relighting forges. Also its kind of difficult to reopen Docks for business again once they've been turned into retail experiences. Anyroad, yep, renationalisation was and still is an option for a lot of things. I mean we've kind of done it with the high street banks ;) Plus we'd save several billion quid that we pay in subsidies to these large Private Companies which would be a bonus.

Seriously though the Unions fucked it up in the 70s and did go too far. It all started to go wrong as far as I'm concerned at the Kodak Strike. No matter how good or right your motives are, you cannot call a strike and picket a workplace when the workers themselves there don't want to strike.

UKIP are in fact a clueless right wing party of clowns who are in thrall to the personality cult of Farage. Farage himself doesn't give a shit how mad his members are, as long as they get him power.

Anyone who thinks we could survive outside of the EU is seriously lacking in their understanding of modern economics. We rely on subsidies and quotas from the EU, in certain industries, just as much as any other EU country does.

Thing with Farage is, he may or may not be right to agitate the European stuff, but many forget at his heart he is also as grassroots Tory as Tory can be.
If you didn't support Thatcher, as you suggest, you most certainly will be making up for any shortfall there by supporting his lot.
BTW what happened to him in Edinburgh is disgraceful, especially those nasty little nats shouting to him to 'get back to England'.
We've got that shit to put up with up here 'til the puss-filled overstuffed boil that is Salmond is burst once and for all. Another matter though!
EDIT: Seems 'protestors' (how long now has that word been bastardised?) are from something called the 'Radical Independence' movement.
Salmond was asked to condemn actions, which he should, since he and Sturgeon are about the only buggers you constantly see supporting no more UK.
Instead he found it laughable.
More likely sitting eating cream cakes punching the air thinking to himself, 'yes!'.
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