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I'm dismayed it went ahead. Which is not to suggest that Griffin put in a good performance. He certainly didn't. But I never expected him to. That was never the issue.

You have to understand, I'm looking at this in the context of the next decade or so. It's taken the National Front decades to evolve to the point where their suited representatives now get invited on Question Time. This was never about an overnight bump in the polls, but about how the fascist voice slowly but surely enters mainstream political debate.

And in the context of the next decade... I believe we'll see a fertile breeding ground for fascism as the global economy begins to absorb the fact that the days of "growth" are coming to an end. I think resource depletion will become a mainstream and frightening idea over the next decade and even if we succeed in shifting to a sustainable model, the transition period could very well involve major social upheaval. The kind of environment that the far right tends to exploit. The very last thing we should be doing as the global economy teeters on the brink is to be inviting the BNP, and those like them, into mainstream debates.

Just before Question Time last night the BBC News discussed the issue themselves. And the language used very clearly implied that this would be the first of several invites extended to the BNP leader. This very fact... that the BNP leader gets regular invitations to debate with the other parties before an audience of millions... makes it far more likely that Griffin will be replaced by someone more effective at the job. And you can pretty much guarantee that by the BNP's third appearance on Question Time, Dimbleby won't be dedicating 90% of the show to picking them apart.

If you'll forgive the cliché, I fear we just watched as the thin end of the wedge was inserted.

I'm also irritated by how reasonable he made Jack Straw appear. Even on immigration (yes, he was uncomfortable and evasive on the issue, but he was sitting one seat away from Nick Griffin and so appeared reasonable by default). I found myself clapping and saying "Well said Jack Straw" at one point. That's plain terrifying! :-)

I was actually quite disappointed with the entire panel other than Straw. Bonnie Greer made a couple of biting remarks, but academics and intellectuals never do well on Question Time because the quick-fire format doesn't suit them. We're a verbose lot, us academics, and we tend not to do sound-bites all that well.

The tory Baroness annoyed the hell out of me. Her contempt for Griffin simply came across as that same kind of contempt that tory aristocrats hold for most of us. Sure, Griffin deserved it, but it was a powerful reminder of just how obnoxious the Conservatives are, and how close to the BNP they can sometimes be (she seemed to be on the same page as Griffin on at least one subject... both even using that tiresome phrase "homosexuality being taught in schools").

The LibDem guy was pretty forgettable all in all.

Only Straw seemed to channel his outrage at Griffin into something worthwhile. He's either a very good actor, or else there was a lot of genuine and barely repressed rage in Straw's delivery.

Overall though, I'm worried that the BBC set a terrible precedent last night. It'll be a long time before we know for sure, but why take the risk?

I didn't see the programme last night, but I'm listening to my local BBC (Radio Cornwall) lunchtime phone in and every single caller is saying Griffin was treated unfairly and that they support the BNP. The racists are queuing up to spew their rubbish about how everyone should become Christian as soon as they set foot in Britain and how Asians breed too much. I don't have a landline and so can't contribute any other viewpoint. It's very depressing and frightening.

Sometimes we might have to let them/him hang themselves to let the public see how pathetic they really are! The BNP Leeds councillor on Radio 5, discussing Question Time after the screening, was a complete muppet, more like him and they'd soon fade away. But I can see your point!

grufty jim wrote:
Overall though, I'm worried that the BBC set a terrible precedent last night. It'll be a long time before we know for sure, but why take the risk?
Why is it so hard for us to accept that a large number of people are consciously and actively bigoted and that drives their voting intentions?

The entirely foolish thing would be for us to believe that the policies of the BNP are only supported by football hooligans and social outcasts. A lot of people vote BNP today simply because Cameron's Tories have abandoned the people within their own ranks who would consider Griffin's worldview by and large perfectly resonable. We can't pretend those people do not exist or simply demonise them as some kind of political underclass.

We are not talking about a sudden rush of new converts to fascism magnetised by the newly minted charms of the BNP. These are not people who just saw the light from the far right. We have to take on board that many of our fellow Britons voted BNP because they are long term adherents to a set of policies that were once meat and drink to many rank and file Tories. Hence the strange silence from Cameron this week. He knows his own people. He can't piss them off more than he has already. On the other hand he can't throw his hat in Griffins ring and compete for the far right voter either. Tricky times for Dave and his power hungry chums.

Thing is since Thatcher's passing as PM we've forgotten what a real right wing Tory looks like.

So instead of wringing their hands what the Lib Dems and Labour should be doing is celebrating the fact that the BNP *only* got 1m votes in this economic and social climate. Surely it is to this country's great credit that we have such a small percentage of voters actively seeking a solution from a far right party when compared with much of the rest of Europe? Especially when the Tories are drifting to the centre. That's the point I wanted the other panelists to make but somehow they managed to drop the ball.

And don't think that Labour aren't wondering whether a strong far right vote might let Labout hang on to some seats they would otherwise lose to Cameron.