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shanshee_allures Mar 3, 2009 18:49:19
Replying to grufty jim

I recall seeing that wonderful Jonathan Miller series in which he (who was brought up in a devout Jewish family) could never get his head round what he was told was his 'eternal debt to Israel'.
Some members of his family were exterminated by the Nazis, and some well off people he knew chose to move to Israel - the 'homeland'.
He detested anti-semtism, but no, the Israelis weren't 'his people'.
The region isn't just about people living where they have no choice, some see it as what they're 'destined' for.
A whole lot of complexities going on there.
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H handofdave
handofdave Mar 3, 2009 19:03:16
Replying to shanshee_allures

Some move there as a religious statement. Some move there because their home countries are hostile to Jews. And some were born there.

The Jews I know, and I am friends with many, are pretty secular, and not very keen on Israeli military excesses. And yet, even the ones that have changed their names, or in other ways tried to avoid that connection to their roots, almost always end up coming back in some way.
It's no accident that they've remained a coherent people even after thousands of years of diaspora and persecution. Israel has become a physical anchor for them after being scattered around the world. It's a highly symbolic chunk of land... obviously to the Palestinians, too.