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stray S
stray Feb 10, 2012 17:13:43
Replying to Squid Tempest

But also as Malcom X said 'There is no such thing as a non-violent revolution'. They will, eventually, open fire on you if it actually looks like you're getting somewhere.

Edit : I think, that not only considering revolutionary history in general, but also what is happening (and has happened) in our present time with the 'arab spring' movements, that to argue that non violent revolution is possible is er.. churlish. Same goes for defending yourself on a peaceful protest, just how many times can you be hit with a stick before you'll think about hitting back ?

S Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest Feb 10, 2012 17:21:45
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stray wrote:
But also as Malcom X said 'There is no such thing as a non-violent revolution'. They will, eventually, open fire on you if it actually looks like you're getting somewhere.
Yup, you're probably right. Still, you know, trips not guns!

Love and peace (maaan),
Incorrigible Old Hippy
xx

M Moon Cat
Moon Cat Feb 10, 2012 18:52:18
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stray wrote:
But also as Malcom X said 'There is no such thing as a non-violent revolution'. They will, eventually, open fire on you if it actually looks like you're getting somewhere.

Edit : I think, that not only considering revolutionary history in general, but also what is happening (and has happened) in our present time with the 'arab spring' movements, that to argue that non violent revolution is possible is er.. churlish. Same goes for defending yourself on a peaceful protest, just how many times can you be hit with a stick before you'll think about hitting back ?

Probably true, sadly. Still, can't help but wonder if it's only a matter of time before the ones hitting back become the ones just hitting and hitting and round we go again.

(currently frozen) peas and love

T The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat Feb 12, 2012 19:08:49
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stray wrote:
But also as Malcom X said 'There is no such thing as a non-violent revolution'. They will, eventually, open fire on you if it actually looks like you're getting somewhere.

Edit : I think, that not only considering revolutionary history in general, but also what is happening (and has happened) in our present time with the 'arab spring' movements, that to argue that non violent revolution is possible is er.. churlish. Same goes for defending yourself on a peaceful protest, just how many times can you be hit with a stick before you'll think about hitting back ?

Fair point, but sheer mass of logic and peaceful process with determined intent will always win, given the momentum it has to create by its very own intent. The Governing will do what ever is necessary to survive. They'll accommodate and if needs be mutate enough to save their power arse positions and sell every principle so long as they can self perpetuate - that way, if we get them by the bollocks, change lies. It's a natural process.

D Dog 3000
Dog 3000 Feb 15, 2012 01:09:13
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Who was more revolutionary, Che & Malcolm or Guttenberg & Steve Jobs? (Or Leary and Owsley?)

I think focusing on "political street fighting" is largely missing the point of how change really happens.