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As you know Mega - I think the 'solar' design carving at Rowter Rocks aint prehistoric. And I don't see how anyone needs to draw parallels with any of Mr Eyre's knowledge (or lack of it) in relation to prehistoric CR-imagery. He had no need whatever to look at CRs. The fella was a xtian wasn't he? And as there are plenty of similar designs on many early christian art, on crosses, churches, etc, I don't see why anyone needs to invoke prehistoric rock-art knowledge or parallels - whether we wanna see Rowter's solar design as slightly akin to Newgrange or not.

Surely some folk here are aware of the progressive evolution & development of symbols. There are plenty of CR designs on early crosses, where such imagery was probably adopted & plonked onto their designs. That's likely what's happened at Rowter. There's at least one Saxon cross less than 10 miles south of Rowter with a stylized cup-and-ring on its shaft. Why couldn't any recent carver have based his designs on that? As any good rock-art student knows, one needs to branch out a bit further and explore the evolution of symbols in early xtian religious iconography. We know that people were etching cup-marks on upright stones in Yorkshire in the 16th century, so I see little problem with some dood/s down Derbyshire doing the same, with a little additional flair!

Does the Rowter Rocks solar design really originate in prehistoric times? I very much doubt it. And whether Pastscape, Baza or anyone else thinks otherwise, they're probably wrong on this one. Soz...

Weirdly though, I think those on t'other side of this rocky mass, with the 3 CRs on top of the stone, are likely to be more ancient. Why? God knows! :)

Paulus wrote:
Weirdly though, I think those on t'other side of this rocky mass, with the 3 CRs on top of the stone, are likely to be more ancient. Why? God knows! :)
Beacause one of them isn't quite ,it's curtailed by the edge of the rock which is not untypical of genuine ra ?, something a faker might pass on .

Paulus wrote:
And I don't see how anyone needs to draw parallels with any of Mr Eyre's knowledge (or lack of it) in relation to prehistoric CR-imagery.
The Newgrange mention was in relation to what might have been known at the time not influence .

Paulus wrote:
As you know Mega - I think the 'solar' design carving at Rowter Rocks aint prehistoric. And I don't see how anyone needs to draw parallels with any of Mr Eyre's knowledge (or lack of it) in relation to prehistoric CR-imagery. He had no need whatever to look at CRs. The fella was a xtian wasn't he? And as there are plenty of similar designs on many early christian art, on crosses, churches, etc, I don't see why anyone needs to invoke prehistoric rock-art knowledge or parallels - whether we wanna see Rowter's solar design as slightly akin to Newgrange or not.

Surely some folk here are aware of the progressive evolution & development of symbols. There are plenty of CR designs on early crosses, where such imagery was probably adopted & plonked onto their designs. That's likely what's happened at Rowter. There's at least one Saxon cross less than 10 miles south of Rowter with a stylized cup-and-ring on its shaft. Why couldn't any recent carver have based his designs on that? As any good rock-art student knows, one needs to branch out a bit further and explore the evolution of symbols in early xtian religious iconography. We know that people were etching cup-marks on upright stones in Yorkshire in the 16th century, so I see little problem with some dood/s down Derbyshire doing the same, with a little additional flair!

Does the Rowter Rocks solar design really originate in prehistoric times? I very much doubt it. And whether Pastscape, Baza or anyone else thinks otherwise, they're probably wrong on this one. Soz...

Weirdly though, I think those on t'other side of this rocky mass, with the 3 CRs on top of the stone, are likely to be more ancient. Why? God knows! :)

Well i'm not saying any of the art isn't genuine but i do find it strange that due to the context and our dear mr Eyres presence some people can't understand why i might have my doubts.
Each to their own though innit, at least past scape don't change their opinions more often that their pants unlike some eminent archaeological "authorities". ; )