Stonehenge and its Environs 134
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tjj wrote:
I would just say to all the people who participated in this discussion and who cannot envisage less traffic filled roads - please stop going on about hiding the A303 from sight - a tunnel would have a massive impact on the Stonehenge environment and hey! if cars and lorries are so essential to our existence then they should be revered as they hurtle past Stonehenge, not hidden away. And could the same people stop moaning about wind turbines that can be seen from an ancient sites and solar panel parks that may catch our eye glinting in the sun as we drive past. The Piper must be paid.
Do we really have to divide up into opposing camps? I thought there was a high level of agreement on this thread. It seems like we'd all like to see less traffic on the roads. There's been some healthy, polite and respectful dialogue about whether and how we can achieve that.

Mustard wrote:
Do we really have to divide up into opposing camps? I thought there was a high level of agreement on this thread. It seems like we'd all like to see less traffic on the roads. There's been some healthy, polite and respectful dialogue about whether and how we can achieve that.
Mustard, you have made some articulate and well argued posts for the car - some of which are irrefutable. Thesweetcheat is a bit of a hero in my book, constantly working out his bus and train routes, always willing to enter into good natured dialogue on a subject he clearly feels passionate about. You summed it up, however, with these words "The car is simply too comfortable, cheap and convenient to be easily displaced."
I haven't really got anything to add without the risk of tailing off into gloom and/or grumpiness. For inspiration I recommend Robert MacFarlane's "The Old Ways - a journey on foot" also his "The Wild Places" - reading about ancient routes across and around the British Isles is inspiring and I suspect some (who are fit enough) would be tempted to walk the same 'old ways' at least some of the time.
Which would be a step in the right direction.

Mustard wrote:
It seems like we'd all like to see less traffic on the roads. There's been some healthy, polite and respectful dialogue about whether and how we can achieve that.
Hitchhiking is probably a bit of a taboo activity now but I wonder if it wouldn’t suit some of us. As a student I hitchhiked from Wiltshire to London on a regular basis. Up as far as Durham once, and to Devon and Cornwall every year for several years (where I had a summer job). Never ever had a problem but did meet some generous drivers along the way who’d treat me to a meal or a cup of tea at roadside cafes, or sometimes go out of their way to take me a little closer to my destination. One guy even bought one of my paintings (come to think of it it was the only painting I ever sold :-)

If anyone is tempted to try hitchhiking here are a few tips (if you haven't done it before but apologies if you have). Drivers only have a few seconds to decide whether or not to pick you up (also, whether it’s possible to pick you up). Good drivers hate inconveniencing others behind them so if you’re thumbing a lift choose a spot on a straight bit of road and stand 20-30 yards before a layby, or somewhere else the driver can safely stop. It’s up to you whether you have a sign with your destination written on it (I never did) but if you do use a sign make it simple and clear with PLEASE written on it. Be careful with your bags or rucksack (I once scratched someone’s car with my rucksack frame and felt really bad about it). If you’re worried about your safety don’t get in a car with a driver (or his/her passengers) that you don’t like the look of and (this is something people of my generation didn’t have) once in ask the driver as soon as possible if you can call a friend with your mobile – it’s a clear signal that you’re in touch with the world and they know more-or-less where you are.