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Couldn't agree with you more HopHead that, "... ancient monuments exist within the context of their environment...". Your headline of 4 December however read 'Long Man vandalized'. With respect, the Long Man has NOT been vandalized, it is the escarpment several hundred metres to the left of the figure that has suffered grafitti.

This isn't about semantics it's about accurate reporting, without which there's the danger of misunderstanding followed by scaremongering followed by claim and counter claim (something you see in the media everyday).

Would you report that Nelson's Column had been vandalized when it was in fact a case of the walls around Trafalgar Square being daubed with grafitti? Those walls also exist within the context of their (architectural) environment.

Littlestone :-)

Fair enough. I think you're splitting hairs, but I hope my edited news item will prove satisfactory. The 200 metres figure was supplied by Sussex Past, who are responsible for the upkeep of the Long Man. Incidentally, they can't do anything because they have no control over the land immediately around the monument. Now trying the South Downs Conservation Board.

If the walls around Trafalgar square were daubed with paint, it's true it would be the square that was vandalized, BUT to most people Trafalgar Square and Nelson's column are one. Thus to vandalize a part vandalizes the whole and so it is with sacred sites. The Long Man and the sweep of the downs are in many people's minds one - perhaps that's what these yobs were aiming at anyway.

This is exactly the same sort of argument Tarmac are spouting. Even though it is well known that Thornborough is a collection of scheduled AND unscheduled monuments within a widespread ritual landscape Tarmac only recognise that the scheduled areas constitute the henges. Thus even though they are destroying the campsites and burial grounds of people who specifically came to Thornborough - they are not damaging the henges.

If they had their was everything we said would be prefaced with twenty words explaining exactly what we mean - result - nobody would read it and they would be more confused by the clarification.

Sorry to use this as a comparison, I'm in no way trying to imply anything by it.

Think of it like this. In 2,000 years time we find a situation where the ancient site of Glastonbury Festival is being quarried. The stages, being upstanding monuments are scheduled monuments and thus protected but the remaining land is being quarried. Protestors of the time would say "Glastonbury is being destroyed" but the developers would simply say they are not damaging Glastonbury - after all, these are scheduled monuments!

In this case the vandalism is something that offends the public view of the monument, and whilst it will probably do no long term damage in itself there are a great many of us who are concerned that this sort of behaviour will expand onto more damaging types, as has been seen at the Roll Rights and Stonehenge for example.