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A Clyde Cairn?

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Clyde cairns are generally orientated between N and SE with a weighting towards NE. Interpreting the significance of this is difficult since many long cairns are known to incorporate one or more earlier round cairns whose chambers can have different orientations. Earlier excavations did not necessarily pick up this multi-period feature and classed these chambers simply as lateral chambers which are generally ignored in orientation statistics. But they may show the original site orientation.

On national boundaries, yes the likes of Gordon Childe and, of course, Glyn Daniel were more visionary. They were pioneering the classification of chambered tombs and looked at examples across Europe when doing so. They were, I suppose, also influenced in this by the popularity of the migration theories at that time.

Later studies tried hard to emphasise local initiatives and produced classifications to match. But part of the baby went out with the bathwater such that, to pick up one of your themes, we do not get a view of portal tombs which covers Ireland, Wales and SW England.

Hopefully it can change but it won't be the archaeos who will do it since that sort of thing is no longer fashionable in their community.

You mentioned "European Megalithia". Did you mean just the study generally or were you referrring to something more specific - like a website???

"You mentioned "European Megalithia". Did you mean just the study generally or were you referrring to something more specific - like a website???"

Just the study in general, but this site will have to go Europe wide with the coming of The Megalithic European by one Julian Cope.

I have recently added bits to megalithomania that expand it's area of coverage into the UK as far as the cross-over areas go. I'm not doing the same thing (i.e. a page per site), but am putting up essay/discussion/weblog type pages on this. The Clyde cairns (once Clyde-Carlingford?) are detailed in the introduction to Estyn Evans' great book <i>Prehistoric and Early Christian Ireland - A Guide</i>. Published in the 50s it's well out of date on most things, but seems to form a very big significance between the Clyde & Irish CTs. As Evans excavated or identified over 100 court tombs, which were formerly considered a rarity here, he knew what he was talking about.

With Evans the Clyde-Carlingford culture theories seem to have been corrected to include the north of Ireland too. Evans seems to prefer a spread from Scotland across Ireland with the tombs getting more elaborate. A lot of others go for the West-East and getting worse theory, as is now known to be the case with pasage tombs.

Yes, the Clyde-Carlingford cairns are something I will have to get my head around at sometime. Perhaps after the portal tomb study is complete ...