Normally an exact number would be hard to come up with, but not in this case as I know of exactly none who have shown that ability to others (based on my personal observation and Googling. Under controlled conditions, that is.) I'm prepared to bet my caravan against your house that that's the EXACT number you know too!
Being committed and getting off your arse every weekend doesn't make throwing knucklebones an effective form of futurology or dowsing a real phenomenon.
"Beats sitting in your armchair or looking at a computer screen and googling away to gain your information from like many do!"
If that's a dig at me so be it but you should know I've been interested in dowsing for many, many years since before Bill Gates had a pot to piss in and I do know a bit about it! As does George. Why demonise us (which is what's coming across loud and clear)? Don't you think we'd RATHER it was proved to be a real phenomenon? You'd have to be bonkers not to wish it was.
Just sticking to my 1,000's of dowsers out there, lets, just for arguments sake, say there are 5,000. I doubt very much that more than 50 dowsers have been 'lab tested' to prove their apparent claims, or more likely, asked to prove something dreamt up by their examiners.
Would you seriously consider that the 'failings' of those 50 dowsers (1%) are truly representative of those other 4,950 who have not been tested? It would only take 1 out of those 4,950 to pass the tests asked of him to prove that dowsing does work, but not for everyone! That is your weakness, you make no allowance for the possibility that it may just work!
What are the unrealistic claims from the sceptical viewpoint ,and what are the quotes ?
The unrealistic claims are from the dowsers .
Do you actaully believe that dowsers are capable of finding "stuff" and what makes you believe it ?
There is no reason to believe that it does work ,when given the opportunity under test conditions , they never do better than expected by chance.
Maybe spoon bending , psychokinesis , table turning ,communicating with the dead , levitation ,reading tea leaves etc works , but I wouldn't bet on it . Everyone , when tested by the non gullible fails .
Just get one dowser to find the hidden pot of ring pulls and we'll be on the road to believing .
I'm not claiming to believe anything, just being rather sceptical about the claims as there have been nowhere near enough test cases to prove your point.
Can you tell me how many there have been please without fudging?
Just tell me straight how many dowsers have been tested under lab conditions compared to all the 1,000's out there without all the vid clips thrown in please. If you don't know then just say so.
Who knows the answer to that ? Obviously nobody .
What bearing could that possibly have on the efficacy of dowsing .
How many crop circles have been shown to be done by non aliens ? As if the numbers matter , just find one that wasn't , that's what matters .
I see you didn't pay much attention to the real evidence .
Of course I can't tell you the exact number of tests . And i never said I could . The number doesn't matter .There has been no waffling about about all the dowsers who failed the tetsts they are real and manifold , I presented some but of course you entirely ignored that . There are countless others and written examples , not half a dozen as you suggest ,this in itself shows the level of ignorance of the subject .
You have failed to provide anything to support the efficacy of dowsing . Dowsers at least might know how to discuss the subject rather than resort to bizarre "tell me exactly how many crop circles have been shown to be man made and if you can't it shows that they could be real " type comment . Do you really believe that is an argument ?
Yes "outta here ", when the going gets tough that has been a common response .