ahhh thanks goffik, looks like we were in the right place, just down the wrong bit according to that link, wish i had google earth on my phone, would have made it a lot easyer. its a shame coz now im back in birmingham and will have to wait probably till next year now to go back.

we parked down by that farm you can see on the link and then tracked down the dirt road for about 10 mins instead of walking up the hill, and the stupid thing is someone else was walking up the hill but me being stupid thought it was the person who lived there walking her dog, even though there was another car parked at the bottom of the hill.

basically im an idiot hahah