The Ridgeway 16
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Yup. That's what I thought you'd (not unreasonably) say! And on most points I'm with you all the way.

For me it goes without saying that a lot of motorists don't see cyclists in the right way or don't see them at all!! But I believe in the majority of cases it is ignorance rather than maliciousness.

Trouble is most motorists have never cycled. They may have had bikes....but, you know what I mean.

(Has to be said though that they've all been pedestrians, but still often treat pedestrians with contempt!!!)

About the only thing I wouldn't agree with is why some cyclists 'take liberties'. I think it's more like they have the same lack of care that the drivers who jump light etc have.

And it's always been the same - I can remember as a 15-or-so-year-old lecturing (oh dear) one of my mates about why he shouldn't just zip up the inside of the car at the front of a queue at a junction, because there was a good chance the car would turn left and squish him! But you see cyclists do it all the time.

Like most things in life, I reckon the proportion of good cyclists and bad cyclists, and good drivers and bad drivers is probably pretty similar. (Same for motorbikes too.) Of course a bad driver is more likely to cause more serious damage to a cyclist than a bad cyclist is to a driver!!!

Licenses for talking anyone? (I'd be banned for a start....)

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Moth

me- bike daft- always have been.
I think every car driver should be made to cycle through the centre of a large city in rush hour just to feel what it's like. I'm sorry- but you've got to be a very assertive (aggresive?) cyclist to survive city roads, not one of those prats that sits behind a parked car waiting for a nice motorist to let you out (I also drive a car BTW). I cycle at least a good metre or so out from parked cars cos I've had so many doors opened on me and have landed across a car bonnet or two in my time cos some asshole hasn't bothered to look. I also give other cyclists shit for not wearing helmets, lights and for jumping traffic lights....