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tjj Feb 19, 2010 15:33:13
Replying to bladup

bladup wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
goffik wrote:
That said, I have no regrets. I've seen things I'd otherwise probably not have got to see had I not had a car. And I need it to get to work. I don't need to justify it, really. G x
Nice and honest. We all need to be. Truth is, without economic growth the world is sunk, there's no lo-tech future that anyone knows of that won't involve mass starvation. So, in this overcrowded island we're gonna have to let a lot of stuff go. My point is that we should pick our fights carefully if we want impact. It was because they picked just the right fight that the Stanton Moor Nine Ladies protestors won.
Expand and develop-yes(lincoln may well need an eastern bypass,not where they intend though) , but respect our shared ancient past and the environment and wildlife, none of this is happening here though, the stuff there're going through is so rare round these parts because 1000's of years of farming have destroyed almost everything else. If they destroy whats left how can lincoln in the future (when we may have better technology for understanding the ancient past) truly understand it's earliest times.
The only solution is for the Government to stop all road building programmes and that aint going to happen. When ever new roads are built on what was once green fields we lose not just what the earth holds to itself but take another step towards spoiling our crowded little island for our children and grandchildren.

I take on board what others have said about how difficult their lives would be without a car and I long since gave up trying to persuade people otherwise. There are some things that can be done though ...

Have a family car rather than a car each. Replace old vehicles with a fuel efficient one, albeit less powerful. And sometimes leave it at home.

Wasn't there a campaign recently to try and get people to drive five miles less a week; that seems like a drop in the ocean but if everyone did it - it would help.

D drewbhoy
drewbhoy Feb 19, 2010 15:49:07
Replying to tjj

A agree with you Tjj, but in some places there is no option but to have a car, say up in the Highlands, Moray, rural Aberdeenshire, Snowdonia, Lake District etc etc. The cars aren't the main problem, it's the idiots who constantly design new roads/golf courses thru ancient sites. Surely the Govt and DVLA have enough revenue from the road tax and fuel charges to ensure better road conditions that don't encroach on sites of interest. Sometimes a letter or two helps, a wind turbine was proposed for the Mains of Hatton, Aberdeenshire near the RSC. Local people petitioned the council and farmer and won. The turbine was moved 50 meters away to the other side of the road. A small victory but a victory nevertheless.

B bladup
bladup Feb 19, 2010 16:34:53
Replying to tjj

tjj wrote:
bladup wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
goffik wrote:
That said, I have no regrets. I've seen things I'd otherwise probably not have got to see had I not had a car. And I need it to get to work. I don't need to justify it, really. G x
Nice and honest. We all need to be. Truth is, without economic growth the world is sunk, there's no lo-tech future that anyone knows of that won't involve mass starvation. So, in this overcrowded island we're gonna have to let a lot of stuff go. My point is that we should pick our fights carefully if we want impact. It was because they picked just the right fight that the Stanton Moor Nine Ladies protestors won.
Expand and develop-yes(lincoln may well need an eastern bypass,not where they intend though) , but respect our shared ancient past and the environment and wildlife, none of this is happening here though, the stuff there're going through is so rare round these parts because 1000's of years of farming have destroyed almost everything else. If they destroy whats left how can lincoln in the future (when we may have better technology for understanding the ancient past) truly understand it's earliest times.
The only solution is for the Government to stop all road building programmes and that aint going to happen. When ever new roads are built on what was once green fields we lose not just what the earth holds to itself but take another step towards spoiling our crowded little island for our children and grandchildren.

I take on board what others have said about how difficult their lives would be without a car and I long since gave up trying to persuade people otherwise. There are some things that can be done though ...

Have a family car rather than a car each. Replace old vehicles with a fuel efficient one, albeit less powerful. And sometimes leave it at home.

Wasn't there a campaign recently to try and get people to drive five miles less a week; that seems like a drop in the ocean but if everyone did it - it would help.

My other half drives , i never learned ,i didn't want to be a polluter or hurt anyone but i do enough driving with her and others so it defeats the purpose a little, but that said it's my little bit and one less car on the road!!!

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