Re: The Archaeology of a Monumental Mound | Forum

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tiompan Jan 30, 2010 23:30:14

Replying to Branwen

Branwen wrote:

tiompan wrote:

Yep the whole animism caboodle has stones as having souls but specifically the souls of the ancestors is I believe less common than other suggestions i.e dancers , maidens , fiddlers.

Animism didn't even come into it for me; hadn't thought of their perspective. Probably had my head stuck in old scottish folklore for too long.

Haven't come across this in english folklore, but I read less of that but I find it the other way round in my experience. i.e. The customs and folklore about the soul stones has is older and has become more obscure (surviving in books up until about the 1850's, but mention of them mostly died out after that). The transformed dancer or fiddler stories have survived, but clearly in revised forms when you look at the elements of the stories.

Devils , witches ,midnight, breaking the sabbath, going to the well are the obvious ones but it seems that healing stones etc tend to be much smaller ,localised and never become "legends " .

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tiompan Jan 30, 2010 23:30:15

Replying to Branwen

Branwen wrote:

tiompan wrote:

Yep the whole animism caboodle has stones as having souls but specifically the souls of the ancestors is I believe less common than other suggestions i.e dancers , maidens , fiddlers.

Animism didn't even come into it for me; hadn't thought of their perspective. Probably had my head stuck in old scottish folklore for too long.

Haven't come across this in english folklore, but I read less of that but I find it the other way round in my experience. i.e. The customs and folklore about the soul stones has is older and has become more obscure (surviving in books up until about the 1850's, but mention of them mostly died out after that). The transformed dancer or fiddler stories have survived, but clearly in revised forms when you look at the elements of the stories.

Devils , witches ,midnight, breaking the sabbath, going to the well are the obvious ones but it seems that healing stones etc tend to be much smaller ,localised and never become "legends " .

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tiompan Jan 30, 2010 23:30:16

Replying to Branwen

Branwen wrote:

tiompan wrote:

Yep the whole animism caboodle has stones as having souls but specifically the souls of the ancestors is I believe less common than other suggestions i.e dancers , maidens , fiddlers.

Animism didn't even come into it for me; hadn't thought of their perspective. Probably had my head stuck in old scottish folklore for too long.

Haven't come across this in english folklore, but I read less of that but I find it the other way round in my experience. i.e. The customs and folklore about the soul stones has is older and has become more obscure (surviving in books up until about the 1850's, but mention of them mostly died out after that). The transformed dancer or fiddler stories have survived, but clearly in revised forms when you look at the elements of the stories.

Devils , witches ,midnight, breaking the sabbath, going to the well are the obvious ones but it seems that healing stones etc tend to be much smaller ,localised and never become "legends " .

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tiompan Jan 30, 2010 23:30:16

Replying to Branwen

Branwen wrote:

tiompan wrote:

Yep the whole animism caboodle has stones as having souls but specifically the souls of the ancestors is I believe less common than other suggestions i.e dancers , maidens , fiddlers.

Animism didn't even come into it for me; hadn't thought of their perspective. Probably had my head stuck in old scottish folklore for too long.

Haven't come across this in english folklore, but I read less of that but I find it the other way round in my experience. i.e. The customs and folklore about the soul stones has is older and has become more obscure (surviving in books up until about the 1850's, but mention of them mostly died out after that). The transformed dancer or fiddler stories have survived, but clearly in revised forms when you look at the elements of the stories.

Devils , witches ,midnight, breaking the sabbath, going to the well are the obvious ones but it seems that healing stones etc tend to be much smaller ,localised and never become "legends " .There was a recent "translation " of a Babylonian(i think)stele which may have explained the commissioner of the engraving's view of the soul in relation to the stone (iirc)