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Rhiannon wrote:
Oh give over. What, do archaeologists have some superhuman powers of patience when they painstakingly dig out finds?
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Rhiannon wrote:
Give over.
I've seen Time Team run a JCB into turf. They dont actually know what's in the first couple of feet they are quickly scouring out. Usually ploughsoil. Stratification assumed gone. Otherwise it is very boring TV. Many times the "detectorists" find coins in the soil and turf they've JCB'd outta the ground.

Should the Time Team be "put on a training course" to trowel the first three feet? That is before "ripping the evidence out with a trowel".

I know at a recent dig I was a part of, the first three feet were shovelled out to get down to the point where the peat hit the natural. This was to find Mesolithic (and slightly earlier!). If a passing Roman had dropped his Denarii or As, it would have been about eighteen inches down. No-one looked. Was that not following "proper" archaeologocal procedures? Isn't all archaeology "questionable".

What if they hit a grave? It happens! Should they stop and leave the person's remains in peace. Some people think so.

And as Heritage Daily points out the lucky detectorists "did not technically break the law". So they didn't break the law. Good luck to the guy. I hope he enjoys his money, lives a long happy life and all the people who care about Roman Coins go and stare in wide wonder at what he dug outta the ground that day.

I once found a Roman Coin near Forfar (up in Angus). 2nd Century. Didnt use a metal detector. Didn't call the local archaeologist and didn't dig. Tree had flipped over. Bit of samian too (which I left). Funny old world.

Fuss over nothing but some guy's good luck!

Couple of things. Yes, Time Team should have more sense. They are quoted as justification by almost every detectorist. But I do agree with Rhiannon they oughta play fair – when they know they are going to be made very rich anyway. And you and I have spent millions over 13 years begging them to - AND, it’s vanishingly rare they’ll be docked any money anyway – the authorities are too frit of upsetting detectorists. Here’s my magic list of the threats they’ve made to go on “reporting strike” over the years. 16 so far. It's blackmailing society, isn't it?

Don’t criticise us or we’ll stop reporting
Don’t tell us what to do or we’ll stop reporting
Don’t undertake surveys of nighthawking else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t let PAS dominate us else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t reduce PAS’s funding else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t impose a Code of Responsible Detecting else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t ever Schedule a site we find else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t discuss licensing us else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t ban inappropriate rallies else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t impose restrictions under stewardship schemes else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t tighten up on the selling of finds on EBay else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t ever, ever, ever short change us on the Treasure rewards else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t abate our Treasure rewards for bad behaviour else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t talk of using some of our Treasure rewards to finance proper excavations of our findspots else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t write to farmers without us dictating what is to be said else we’ll stop reporting
Don’t extend the items covered by the Treasure Act beyond exactly what we say else we’ll stop reporting.”

It’s all got so mad that even people that trespass and find hoards are lauded and probably rewarded for see this very recent story on the PAS website..... http://finds.org.uk/news/stories/article/id/220 See also the comment at the bottom by Peter Twinn, a really thoughtful detectorist that’s also now an archaeologists and thinks it’s “theft, no matter how sugar coated you make that look. Such individuals should not receive any reward”. Bet the guy does get rewarded though else we’ll have the “we’ll stop reporting” threat number 17.