Yeah, but what's a 'serious' pagan? I mean I feel a spiritual connection with these places and an intuitive leaning towards native celtic spirituality, but I wouldn't brand myself as a "serious pagan". But I do like to turn up at Avebury during the larger festivals and mix with a bunch of similarly inclined people. The problem isn't the "serious pagans" or the "weekend pagans" or the "hippies" or any other sub-group you care to slap a label on - it's the usual minority of idiots that will inevitably get attracted to any 'alternative' event once it exceeds a certain size. I've no idea what the solution is, but it's a shame that one can't be found that accommodates all concerns.