Thank you (hope the hols went well), I'd stayed overnight at a friends in Invergowrie on the way back from the Simple Minds gig. Will let you know the next time I'm looking around Tealing and might well sample a whisky or 2 in the pub! As for cairns I found a walkers cairn on top of Wheedlemont Hillfort. Looking to the west I spied loads of hut circles and outcrops. The cup marked stone at Cuttieburn, appeared to be invisible! Any clues? And have you had any more discoveries?