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tiompan Apr 3, 2010 19:25:11

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LOL .Thanks Moss dunno how I missed that .Yep looks like Mynnd Cilciffeth would be in the way .Might that be be prominent ?.It's not that it's an "alignment " as such , unless of course the monumnet is oriented towards it , but from Carreg Samson to Myndd C it's very close to to equinox sunrise but if the horizon is just genearlly hilly it's even less salient .

Well I got the big papery map out and looked; Myndd C looks like its the end of the Presceli range, than you get the valley - Cwaum Gwaun and flattish land to the coast. You can see the coast by the way from the Presceli's. Forgot to say that a lot of the cromlechs near the coast are adjacent to, or focussed on rocky outcrops...

Some information, no ones been on TMA to Cerrig Lladron, love to go back and do a week there - on horseback for getting around...

Coflein "Remains of a stone row, situated within open moorland on a level terrace below Cerrig Lladron. The three stones are aligned from NNE to SSW, the row measuring 17m in length overall. The row is aligned with the large round cairn on the summit of Cerrig Lladron (PE298), which is about 200m to the SSW. The largest stone measures 2.5m in height, 1.9m in length and 1m in width. Its nearest neighbour, that to the NNE, measures 0.4m in height, while the stone situated to the SSW measures 0.7m in height. A further upright stone is situated immediately to the NE of the largest. It measures 0.6m in height and may have been displaced from the row."

Moss , maybe I'm being overly cynical about some Coflein entries but I think it's worth mentioning .The first stone is a big bugger for a stone row , particularly at that height .One may have been " displaced " , by nature or human hand is not suggested maybe it is just where it always was and never was part of the line of stones . The monument is described as being prehistoric ,funerary/ritual/religious , no evidence is provided for this judgement . Maybe F.Foster can answer the questions . What do you think ?

moss Apr 3, 2010 21:28:59

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Tiompan, surely you love speculating about what might be ;). Foster surveyed in 2005, so he's pretty up to date on stone rows (of which there are a few around this area.) And yes there is a big discrepancy in size of stone; Figgis gives - "Cerrig Lladron stones (SN 06673229) two stones unevenly matched, so possibly not a pair. Unusually high up on the mountain"....

The coflein grid ref is SN066322,fairly close to the Figgis grid ref. (one and the same?) for the stone row, so you may be right and Foster joined up stones that were just coincidental!

The Presceli range is pretty exciting, and Figgis again says of the Cerrig Lladron hill-top cairn; (SN 06583208) A magnificent hill-top cairn, still nearly 7 ft high and with a massive circumference...Unusually this one stands alone. The line of summits crowned by cairns (of which there has been some discussion elsewhere) which runs east along the ridgeway is a remarkable sight" he goes on to say that the whole of the top of the Preselis looks like a linear cemetery. There are three enormous cairns at Foel Drygarn at the other end of course...