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tjj wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
tjj wrote:
I'm sure AC doesn't want me defending him like I'm his over protective aunt or something but he does add a different perspective to discussions - as Bladup did in his time here, and to discourage 'alternative' view points make this forum a poorer place (in my opinion for what it's worth).
I think this has been clarified by a number of people a number of times recently. Stating beliefs as fact without offering any justification is the only issue. If suggesting that's best not done is "discouraging alternative viewpoints" then so be it, most people are guilty.

As for people that got sacked from here I can't think of anyone that didn't deserve it but you could always ask the Eds if they think otherwise.

Why would I want to involve the Eds in this discussion? Why are you being so confrontational? Why I am bothering to answer this nonsense ... you tell me Nigel. You seem to have the answer to everything.
Over and out ... not slinking off, will be back - but sensible things to do now.
I visit a few other sites re. heritage/ancient culture and I must be honest that they are friendlier and more open minded to alternative worldviews/ideas etc. TMA seems to operate on a 'acceptable' v 'unacceptable' as established by a dominant core of contributors. I will say this though. How on earth can you satisfactorily 'prove' something to a purely scientific materialist about something that cannot be proved within their limited framework. You can't. That's where personally experience, study, experimentation comes in.

Astralcat wrote:
I visit a few other sites re. heritage/ancient culture and I must be honest that they are friendlier and more open minded to alternative worldviews/ideas etc. TMA seems to operate on a 'acceptable' v 'unacceptable' as established by a dominant core of contributors.
I can't speak for anyone else, but that's certainly not true from my point of view. I couldn't give two whoots what you believe. I'm even potentially interested in hearing about/discussing some of those beliefs. I don't find them remotely unacceptable. The problem only arises when you try and tell people that they're facts. I'm sure this has been said before, but if you simply prefixed your statements with "I believe", then I think you'd find this place a lot more accepting. It's all about compromise ;)

Astralcat wrote:
I will say this though. How on earth can you satisfactorily 'prove' something to a purely scientific materialist about something that cannot be proved within their limited framework. You can't. That's where personally experience, study, experimentation comes in.
Of course you can't. That's why it ain't a fact. Facts are things that can be demonstrated and proven.