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nigelswift wrote:
I guess it will become a matter of fact whether bluestones from Snowdonia, the Llyn Peninsula and Anglesey are in Wilts or not. But I'm not sure it would move us further towards glaciation being the agency of transport as you have suggested. Rather, it seems to move us nearer to a consensus between archaeologists and geologists that there may have been a "third way" i.e. human transport but by many groups. Suddenly we have two geologists saying yes, people did it and the archaeologists are right.

The burden of proof moves decidely away from the third way parties to the glaciation party. The third way parties now have a viable theory for how every bit of bluestone arrived. The glaciation party has to explain how glaciers brought bluestones from Snowdonia, the Llyn Peninsula and Anglesey but NOT vast quantities of granite as well.

Hmmm -- actually, Nigel, the geologists didn't say it. The piece wasn't written by them at all, but by Mike Pitts. They gave him the info, and he wrote the piece. So the spin is all his.

The "third option" does not seem to me to be a viable theory at all -- just another piece of special pleading, designed to explain away something that is increasingly difficult to explain, namely highly varied lithologies and widely separated source areas for the rocks and fragments. Do you actually want scores of bluestone quarries all over the place? Come off it..... so why aren't there any of these quarries to the north, east and south of Stonehenge?

And I disagree with you about glacial transport. We still don't know whether there are any rocks from Snowdonia, Anglesey and Llyn on Salisbury Plain -- some of the fragments MIGHT come from those areas. And glaciers do not pick up great loads of rock from every piece of landscape they pass across. Can I respectfully suggest you do a bit of homework on this?

"Can I respectfully suggest you do a bit of homework on this?"

Ummmmm....
What, till I come up with the right answer?
;)

The reason I suggested the two geologists subscribed to the third way was because you said they had in your blog that you directed us to, which said -


"Interestingly, Rob and Richard have not plumped for the glacial theory in preference to the human transport theory, but have suggested a third option, namely that the stones were carried to the Stonehenge area "by different groups of people."

Natch, I thought you'd done YOUR homework!