Thank you for that Rhiannon, no one seems to have done anything on our spoons, also forgot to say this morning, my 'friend' (don't know who he is except that he lives below the Midridge) on Flickr, has been photographing the demise of Southgate, apparently there are 10 archaeologists from Museum of London there, could be a roman road coming up, which I presume would mean a bridge there to..