Aye - was a bit unfair of me to compare the two groups! I just used the MDers as an example because of the suggestion of self-governance... The ones that don't adhere to the code are obviously just greedy and selfish. But you know that and I won't go into all that again... ;o)

> Even the most uncaring geocacher can't be compared with them

This is pretty much what I'm getting at - and I'm sure the MDing issue started off the same way (only to discover that some of them were willingly destroying archaeology as mentioned briefly above!) where it was thought that education in these matters was better than just having a go at them. It could be that they don't realise they are causing damage, and a simple pointer in the right direction could put them right.

I'm not a geocacher, by the way! Just trying to see it from all sides...

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