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"I mention this because of the altered states of mind Buddhist monks enter into during meditation"

Tibetan monks/nuns are (were) physically robust they have both dairy and barley in their diets, does this mean that they are less able to go into a trancelike meditation? Its a fascinating and vast subject diet, religion and its effect on people. For instance early celtic monks by isolating themselves in lonely places would probably only have lived on fish/seabirds, so did malnutrition/half starvation bring on all those "visions"?

< so did malnutrition/half starvation bring on all those "visions"? >

Not all, but certainly quite a lot. Shamans, hermits and even some modern day explorers use just such techniques to elicit visionary experiences. Methods for inducing particular 'frequency' visions are widespread.

>...so did malnutrition/half starvation bring on all those "visions"?<

Yes, in my humble opinion, as well as herbs, fungi, chanting, dancing and heaven knows what else.

A friend, some forty years ago, once said to me, "It's all about chemicals in the brain man." I think I've been trying to convince myself ever since that it's not <i>all</i> about chemicals in the brain but haven't quite manage it yet :-)

nice thread....moss In my limited experience although tibetan monks are 'robust' this in no way makes it more difficult to enter 'trance' i have studied with tibetan mystics 'ngagpa' tradition of nyingma and allso the 'forest ' theravada tradition there are specific forms of trance (altered conciousness) that are enabled by many different physical psychological and pharmocological (to name but a few) that is not forgetting that non of these act independently of each other ( e.g the change in brain chemistry, when one is in deep meditation etc) then of course we have the problem of which came first the chicken or the egg? conciousness change or chemical change(which precipitateswhich) cheers muddy